The Center For Medical Progress – Human Capital – Episode 1: Planned Parenthood’s Black Market In Baby Parts
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[The Center For Medical Progress – Human Capital – Episode 1: Planned Parenthood’s Black Market In Baby Parts]
The documentary episode you are about to see explores the real-life harvesting and selling of baby body parts at Planned Parenthood abortion clinics.
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I thought I was going to be just drawing blood, not procuring tissue from aborted fetuses.
(a) Purchase of tissue
It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human fetal tissue for valuable consideration.
42 U.S. CODE 289G-2
They partner with Planned Parenthood and they get part of the money.
Dr. Deborah Nucatola
Senior Director of Medical Services
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
[Deborah Nucatola:] Source: LYBIO.net
So I say okay, what are you looking to supply today?
Dr. Savita Ginde
Vice President and Medical Director
Planned Parenthood Rocky Mountains
You know you can imagine how they would run with this like, “Oh, they’re selling body parts!” You know.
Episode 1: Planned Parenthood’s Black Market in Baby Parts
My name is Holly O’Donnell. I’m 24 and I’m a phlebotomist and an ex-procurement technician. For those who don’t know what phlebotomist is basically you draw blood for living. I was looking to help the public. I mean I’m looking to make blood draws easy for children, for people. I’m very passionate about people. I find myself. I’m very humane. I’m very sensitive. I thought I was going to be just drawing blood, not procuring tissue from aborted fetuses.
I basically just went on Craig’s List, typed in the word phlebotomist lab technician and I clicked a link to apply, it said procurement technician. I went to the website; it said ‘StemExpress’ and ‘Apply Now.’ I applied, it was really short, it wasn’t even an application, it was your name, your phone number that was it. And I got an e-mail back and I interviewed and they don’t even let you know in the interview what you’re doing.
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StemExpress is a company that hires procurement techs to draw blood and dissect dead fetuses and sell the parts to researchers. They partner with Planned Parenthood and they get part of the money, because we pay them to use their facilities and they get paid from it. They do get some kind of benefit. We’re asked to procure certain tissues like brain, liver, thymus, pancreas, heart, lungs and pretty much anything on the fetus. It’s basically human trafficking of fetal tissues.
Dr. Ketharine Sheehan
Planned Parenthood Pacific Southwest
So I’ll just take a couple of minutes.
And Brian is my assistant.
Hi. Oh you’re warm, I want to hang onto you.
So I was talking to Mary about what I’m trying to offer to clinics as a procurement service and she said you know all about this.
We have already a relationship with ABR.
Oh okay. So…
That’s a sort of thing you are doing.
It’s a startup. So something is already a service there I’m thinking with my business head…
[Indiscernible] over 10 years or really a long time.
We just kind of renegotiated the contracts.
They’re doing the big collection for government level collections and things like that.
So I’m trying to think of other providers in town, they are…
So I don’t want to sound like a salesmen here, but I am going to so we return a portion of our fees to the clinics…
So just to as a way of – thank you for this – just trying to establish…
Right get a tow…
I mean make it – make it rush.
All right, all right.
They weren’t looking for any compassionate individual at all. They were just looking for someone who could get as much money, as many samples. I think that’s what they were interested in me as a phlebotomist because I can draw quick, so I think that they look at that and they want a someone who could the numbers up. The owner Cate Dyer, she is used to be a procurement tech and then she went and started her own business. And now she’s making a lot of money based off the poor girls, who half the time don’t even want to get abortions. It’s a pretty set company.
Okay. So I’d like what would you expect for intact tissue. What sort of compensation, what sort of…
Dr. Mary Gatter
President, Medical Directors’ Council,
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
[Dr. Mary Gatter:]
Well why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying.
Okay. I don’t think so. I’d like to – I would like to know, what would make you happy? What would work for you?
Well, you know in negotiations the person who throws out the figure first is at a loss, right? So-
You – No, I don’t look at it that way. I know, you want to play that game, I get it. But…
I don’t want to play games, I just don’t want to lowball, because I’m used to low things from –
You know what? If you lowball, I’ll act pleasantly surprised and you’ll know it’s a lowball.
What I want to know is – what would work for you? Don’t lowball it…
Tell me what you really –
Okay. $75 a specimen.
What do you see?
What Planned Parenthood sees:
Body Parts: $300
For whatever we could procure, they would get a certain percentage. The main nurse was always trying to make sure that we got our specimens. No one else really cared, but the main nurse did because she knew that Planned Parenthood was getting compensated. So she wanted to make sure that everything was going to great for us and it was going great for them, and for us and was going greater for them.
And are we agreed that $100 would keep you happy?
I think so – Well let me agree to find out what other affiliates…
In California what they are getting, and if they’re getting substantially more, then we can discuss it then.
If this is in the ballpark, it’s fine, if it’s still low then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini. I said I want a Lamborghini.
Don’t we all?
There was one instance where I know that one of the girls was working at the clinic, and she was anti-abortion, but I am not sure why she was working there and she knew that I communicate with the staff like I need this specimen, well, I can get this and there were times and she would always get rid of it before I could. And I would always ask her and like hey, I just told you I need that, its like oh, I forgot and she did on purpose all the time and I went to [indiscernible] like hey, this girl keeps throwing away my specimen, she is like, let me talk to her. And on her talking, she is like we need them here like you need to let them have her specimens, but she was pretty adamant about it. She was trying to tell the staff, look you need to listen to the text like Planned Parenthood needs compensation. The harder and more valuable the tissue, the more money you get. So if you can somehow procure a brain or a heart, you’re going to get more money than just like chorionic villi or umbilical cord. That’s basically what it is. So I guess that’s an incentive to try and get the hard stuff to get more money.
So I remember my first day I was at the Concord Clinic and it was very early in the morning. I was with one of my trainers. And I walk in, I meet the staff and I look over in the corner and there is a little – it’s a little white tray with pie dishes on it. Okay. And then I see someone come in with a bottle of something and there was blood in it and I am like okay then they went over to the sink and they emptied it out on a strainer and put it on the pie dish and light it up. And I’m like looking and what’s going on. And my trainer comes over and she puts on gloves and she grabs some tweezers and she’s picking the parts away from the vaginal tissue. I have never had anxiety before this at all, so, I’m looking and I don’t know what’s going on.
I had no idea this is what was going to be happening especially my first day. And she’s literally she has tweezers and she’s like okay well this is a head, this is an arm, this is a leg. And she hands them over to me and oh here you go can you show me some of the parts I just showed you? And I grabbed the tweezers, I’m like – because I didn’t wasn’t to lose this job. I didn’t know. I was already stoked to get it so I did what she said and the moment I took the tweezers, I put them in the dish. I remember grabbing a leg and I said saying this is a leg and the moment I picked it up, I could just feel like death and pain.
Like I never felt like that before like shoot up through my body and I started to – I blacked out basically. They got the smelling – the smelling salt, woke up in the recovery room and looking around – was really embarrassed. You know, who faints at their first job? And one nurse looks at me and is like, Oh – you’re new huh? And, I’m like yeah. Don’t worry it still happens to a bunch of us – like really – so I guess some of us don’t ever really get over it. And, I remember leaving that day like what have I gotten myself into.
11.6 week fetus at PPRM,
Prepared for procurement
[Dr. Ginde:] So would you call that intact?
[Buyer:] These are intact kidneys, yes. If somebody needed –
[Dr. Ginde:] Because if I looked at that, I’d be like that’s good to go.
[Buyer:] Oh yeah.
[Medical Assistant:] [laughs] Five stars!
[Buyer:] Yeah I mean you could start a neural cell culture from this neural tissue right here.
[Dr. Ginde:] Yeah would someone want that?
[Dr. Ginde:] Yeah. Any of this.
[Buyer:] Yeah! Oh yeah, someone would. This is definitely.
[Dr. Ginde:] So even at 11 weeks, even though it’s really early because I know we had talked about 2nd-tri[mester]
[Buyer:] This is neural tissue that people could take. And look, and you see how it’s still connected through the spinal cord back there-
[Dr. Ginde:] So we just send that all together and they…
[Buyer:] You could actually, yeah. Some people prefer that actually because it keeps it a little more protected. Yeah.
[Buyer:] That 11.6 [week fetus] was pretty good. There was – yeah, I mean, there was like three or four samples we could have taken out of the 11.6 and that would be…
[Dr. Ginde:] Excellent.
[Buyer:] If we were doing like $50 or $75 per specimen that’d be like $200 to $300 [total], and we’d be comfortable with that.
[Buyer:] But stuff like this, we don’t want to be like just a flat fee of like $200, and then, it’s like-
[Dr. Ginde:] Source: L Y B I O . N E T
No, and the, I think a per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.
It’s really just about, if anyone were ever to ask them
“What do you do for this $60?
How can you justify that?”
“Or are you basically just doing something completely egregious, that you should be doing for free?”
I think for affiliates, at the end of the day they’re a non profit.
They just don’t want to – they want to break even
And if they can do a little better than break even and do so in a way that, you know, seems reasonable, they’re happy to do that.
I think this is definitely to be continued.
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