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THIS IS WHY JESSE VENTURA IS NOT ALLOWED ON LIVE TV! “Every War Starts With A False Flag”
[Piers Morgan]
Good evening, and welcome to a special live edition of PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT. And welcome my audience here in the studio. I can promise you, this won’t be like an hour like you’ve never heard before with a man who is never afraid to say exactly what he thinks.
Jesse Ventura, the ex-Navy SEAL, superstar wrestler, and governor of Minnesota, answers your questions. Quiet at no time, either for the Democrats or the Republicans. And a surprising theory on who he thinks is behind the anti-American violence in the Middle East.
And here he is, Jesse Ventura.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
Good to see you.
[Jesse Ventura]
Good to see you. Thank you.
[Piers Morgan]
Good to see you.
[Jesse Ventura]
OK. Thank you. Thank you.
[Piers Morgan]
How are you, sir?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, I’ve got to get some water.
(LAUGHTER)
I’ve got to get ready for you. I’m doing good, Piers.
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
Well, we’ve got an hour ahead of us. We’ll cover lots of ground. I want to start, though, with the breaking news today. The controversial and apparently secretly taped video of Mitt Romney at a private fundraiser. The person responsible wants to remain anonymous, but “New York” magazine reports it was passed along by former President Jimmy Carter’s grandson, James Carter IV. CNN has not been able to independently verify the authenticity of the recordings, but let’s take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[Mitt Romney]
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right. There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they’re entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.
That’s an entitlement and the government should give it to them, and they will vote for this president no matter what. These are people who pay no income tax.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[Piers Morgan]
The Romney campaign released a statement in response to the issue but did not directly mentioned the video. It reads, “Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy. As the governor has made clear all year he’s concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work. Mitt Romney’s plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy, and moves Americans off of government dependency and into jobs.”
Jesse Ventura, you were shaking your head, murmuring all sorts of profanities under your breath there. Clearly you’re not impressed by Mitt Romney’s claim, which effectively boils down, whichever way you look at and whatever statements he puts out, that half of the American people, apparently are — well, as he put it — on the scrounge, not paying tax, victims, and living off the state.
What do you make of that?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, let’s start with taxes for a moment. Do you realize, as I cover in my book here, that these major corporations pay lobbyists more than what they pay in taxes? These corporations, these corporations that make billions of dollars pay more to lobbyists than what they pay in taxes. And maybe one of the reasons Mitt has that problem is because, when did our ill-fortunes start? Under Bush and Cheney and the Republicans. And you’re hearing this from an independent.
Because I know enough to know that the economy what you have today in the economy is the result of decisions made about three, four, or five years ago. Because that’s how long it takes for them to get into this massive economy. So in my opinion, the Republicans are the ones responsible. And when Romney says he’s going to create, well how many million jobs?
[Piers Morgan]
Twelve million was his last —
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s total hogwash, and I’ll tell you why. The only thing a government official can make — can create is a government job. So if he’s going to create 12 million new jobs, they’re going to be paid for by taxes. Because jobs are created —
[Piers Morgan]
On his specific, Jesse —
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait, Piers. Jobs are created in the private sector. Not by the president or the government unless they’re government jobs.
[Piers Morgan]
We’ll come to job stimulation a little later in the show, but on this specific point, Mitt Romney’s been found on tape at a private fundraiser, trying to raise cash, we think a few months ago. But this point that basically everyone who votes for Obama or the vast majority are victims, don’t pay taxes, what we believe, this is just a theory, a theory you’ve got the 47 percent, may have come from the Tax Policy Center, which found that 46.4 percent of households pay no federal income tax in 2011.
But most households did pay payroll taxes. Now the 18% percent of houses that paid neither income taxes or payroll taxes, the center found more than half of those were elderly and more than a third were not elderly but had an income under $20,000 dollars. So when you put it all together like that, this is a bit of a clanger on Mitt Romney.
This will be portrayed by the Democrats, I think, very strongly from now until election as a guy dismissing half of America as people who are just victims, living off the state.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it shows me that Mitt Romney probably lives in a world that I don’t live in. You know? He lives in a world — I hear he’s worth, what, $250 million? And he comes from wealth. And most people I find that are born with that kind of money truly don’t know what it’s like to be out there.
I mean, you know, I remember when I started years ago on my pro- wrestling career when I’d just gotten out of the United States Navy, I left with a beat-up car and 250 bucks, and that’s all I had to my name. When I went off to start my pro wrestling career.
[Piers Morgan]
There’s a statement from the Obama campaign that’s just been released. It says, “It’s shocking that a candidate for president of United States would go behind doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as victims, entitled to handouts and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their lives. It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation.”
I mean, they’ve got a point. And I think it’s an embarrassing thing for Mitt Romney, however he tries to spin this.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it seems Mitt Romney lately has been saying a lot of embarrassing things. You know, and he’s certainly not going to endear yourself to 47 percent of the country, and I would think it’s going to be quite hard to win. But maybe their plan is that they’ve got these new voter registration laws to where they can deny 45% percent of the country of the ability to vote.
You know, maybe that’s their ultimate plan is to only get to half the country and let only half the country vote in the first place. Because on that note, this whole thing’s a farce. Voter fraud is a complete red flag. There’s – there’s about as much voter fraud in this country as there is people being struck by lightning bolts. I know that from a governor standpoint. Voter fraud is nothing, and yet they’re trying to give everybody an I.D. card. Poor people would have to pay $35 bucks to go get a state I.D.
Well, if you’re that poor, $35 might be the difference between whether you eat that day or not. Well, what do you think a person’s going to do? They’re going to go get food. If it’s that bad. And I think the pathetic thing is that our country is in this kind of shape and who’s responsible? These two major parties. They’ve been in charge for 150 years.
[Piers Morgan]
Mitt Romney’s had a rough week because of the Benghazi incident in which he was deemed by most people, including many on his own side, to have jumped in with a critical statement of the President. Really without knowing all the facts and turning into a political football — when most people thought that was the wrong thing to be doing.
[Jesse Ventura]
I agree.
[Piers Morgan]
As an American politician at that time.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, absolutely. When our country’s attacked in any way, shape or form, we need to pull together, we need to come together, not separate at that point. I mean, you want my — what I would do over there? I would do what the pinnacle of the Republican Party, the hero, whatever, modern day Ronald Reagan did.
Do you recall when our — back in the ’80s when the barracks in Lebanon was hit —
[Piers Morgan]
Ya.
[Jesse Ventura]
– then over 200 Marines were killed, did Ronald Reagan go to war? No, he got us the hell out of there. And that’s where I stand on this. If these people don’t want us over there, let’s close our embassies, I stand with Ron Paul, let’s get rid of foreign aid altogether. Because as Ron Paul put it, the definition of foreign aid, that’s taking from America’s poor and giving it to another country’s rich.
[Piers Morgan]
But hang on. Hang on, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait a minute.
[Piers Morgan]
You wait a minute. It’s my show. You wait a minute. Hey.
[Jesse Ventura]
Hey.
[Piers Morgan]
Let me – just challenging you —
[Jesse Ventura]
Hey, I’m talking.
[Piers Morgan]
I’m challenging you.
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
Because I think that is taking one extreme and going to the other. It may well be that America has too many embassies, has too much say in too many countries.
[Jesse Ventura]
We’re also broke.
[Piers Morgan]
Of course, you know, any country —
[Jesse Ventura]
How can we give to foreign aide?
[Piers Morgan]
You’re not the only country that’ broken the rule like that.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, yes. We’re giving foreign aid. On a basic term for you people, that would be the equivalent, you’re losing your house, you’re three payments behind on your car, but your cousin Bob from out of state needs to borrow $500 bucks from you. Are you going to send it?
[Piers Morgan]
Well it depends – well Jesse
[Jesse Ventura]
When you can’t even make your own house payment? We’re broke. How in debt are we?
[Piers Morgan]
Well, you’re certainly not as broke as many countries around the world.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, if they’re worse and in more debt than us, I want to see a country that can say they have more debt than we do.
[Piers Morgan]
America remains a superpower. And America —
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure we are.
[Piers Morgan]
And all superpowers, I believe, have a responsibility to other countries around the world. Now it may —
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t.
[Piers Morgan]
Really?
[Jesse Ventura]
No.
[Piers Morgan]
You don’t think Americans have any involvement in any country in the world?
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure we can have involvement if they ask us. Since when should we be the world’s policeman? Why do we have military bases in 160-something countries? We have no — no foreign country has a base here. Imagine if Hugo Chavez decided to buy 1,000 acres of land by Palm Springs and move the Venezuelan military in there?
What do you think our reaction would be to that? Yet we have multiple bases in Korea, multiple bases in Japan, multiple bases in Germany. And Piers, last time I checked, those wars were over 60 years ago. Why are we still there?
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
Well, the argument would be to prevent another war in that nature
(LAUGHTER)
[Piers Morgan]
Why — by why would you laugh at that? Isn’t that a reality?
[Jesse Ventura]
Because our military today —
(CROSSTALK)
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
There’s lots of people out there who would like to harm America and its interest.
[Jesse Ventura]
Our military today is so advanced, we can be anywhere in the world in a matter of seconds. Minutes or hours, we do not need to be an empire like Rome occupying with our military throughout the world and if you’ve noticed, I’m getting nothing but nods out here, Piers.
[Piers Morgan]
You think America would be safer.
[Jesse Ventura]
From regular Americans —
[Piers Morgan]
Would America be safer?
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure, we’d be safe.
[Piers Morgan]
Without any embassies in any country?
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m not saying necessarily to get rid of embassies. Absolutely have embassies. But if these Middle Eastern countries are going to behave towards us the way they do, then let’s get the hell out of there and leave them to their own.
You’ve got to remember something. I urge people to read the writings of Major General Smedley Butler. General Butler died in the early ’40s, but he was the most decorated Marine in history. He won two Congressional Medals of Honor. And he wrote a book called “War is a Racket.” And in that book, and this was way at the beginning of last century, he said I didn’t defend the American people’s freedom, I worked for the United Fruit Corporation.
When they went into Central and South America, if they didn’t get cooperation, they’d sent in the U.S. Marines to get it.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes, but that wasn’t true —
[Jesse Ventura]
Enough of that.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes, but that wasn’t true about the Second World War, was it?
[Jesse Ventura]
Probably not.
[Piers Morgan]
Definitely it wasn’t.
[Jesse Ventura]
Right.
[Piers Morgan]
That was a violent —
[Jesse Ventura]
But you’re apples and oranges here.
[Jesse Ventura]
You’re apples and oranges here.
[Piers Morgan]
No, we’re not. You’re saying —
[Jesse Ventura]
How can you compare the Second World War to —
[Piers Morgan]
You’re saying —
[Jesse Ventura]
To us being thing strong arm of multinational corporations.
[Piers Morgan]
You were effectively telling this audience and the audience at home that wars are always of that nature. And they’re not. The reality is sometimes you have to oppress a bad guy, don’t you?
[Jesse Ventura]
All right. All right, OK. Let’s take my lifetime. I was born post World War II, 1951.
[Piers Morgan]
Uh huh
[Jesse Ventura]
Now if you count the Cold War and the war on drugs, which the war on drugs is a war I lived four months of the year in Mexico, 20,000 Mexicans, I believe, died last year as a result of the war on drugs.
Do you realize we’ve been at war my entire life? My entire life. We have been at war. Is that the role of the United States? Perennial war? At war all the time?
[Piers Morgan]
No.
[Jesse Ventura]
No. I’ve had enough of it. Let’s listen to Jimi Hendrix for a moment who is on my shirt.
[Piers Morgan]
(INAUDIBLE).
[Jesse Ventura]
Jimmy Hendrix. Quote from Jimmy Hendrix. The greatest guitar player —
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
That’s the first time they’ve applauded you in the last 10 minutes.
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
Was when you evoked the name of Jimmy Hendrix.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait. Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Hendrix. When the power of love overtakes the love of power, then we’ll have peace. When the power of love overtakes the love of power, then we’ll have peace.
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
On that — on that musical bombshell, we’ll take a short break. When we come back, apparently, and I’m certainly hesitant to confirm this yet, we’ll ask you after the break, you’re going to make a run for the White House in 2016.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
“Saturday Night Live” having fun at Mitt Romney’s expense. And back with me now is Jesse Ventura. His new book is “DemoCRIPS and ReBLOODlicans: No More Gangs in Government.” With me live along with our studio audience.
Here’s the thing, you can flip this around. Everyone’s having a laugh at Mitt Romney’s expense and they’re all saying Obama’s stretching ahead in the polls and so on. But the reality is, Barack Obama’s been there four years, unemployment remains at an incredibly unacceptable figure of over 8% percent.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
You’ve got lots of people suffering, losing homes, jobs, livelihoods. Why should he get another four years?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, because —
[Piers Morgan]
However many gaffes Mitt Romney may be making —
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes.
[Piers Morgan]
– he is a very experienced,
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
- successful businessman.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
Could he not do a better job?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, first of all, they posed the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago? I would say, yes. George Bush and Dick Cheney are gone. So no matter what —
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
– we’re better off today than we were four years ago.
[Piers Morgan]
You can rephrase —
[Jesse Ventura]
Let’s remember —
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s rephrase the question and see how the audience reacts. How many in this audience personally, financially, feel genuinely better off after four years? If you do, applaud.
(APPLAUSE)
OK. And if you don’t, applaud now.
(APPLAUSE)
So, you know, it’s probably about 50-50. So half of this —
[Jesse Ventura]
No. I got that at about 70-30.
(LAUGHTER)
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s put it at 60-40.
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
All right. I’m compromise.
[Piers Morgan]
Maybe 60-40. But whatever it was, certainly a number of people in the room —
[Jesse Ventura]
OK.
[Piers Morgan]
– would agree they’re not better off.
[Jesse Ventura]
OK. But let’s get to brass tax here. And again, I’m the independent. In the economy, things that are done three, four, five years ago show up today. So when the recession of what we had hit, which Barack Obama inherited, Bush did the first bailout. That was because it hit in ’08 because of decisions done in ’03,’04, when you had a Republican president, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.
Why – why at the Republican convention, and I ask you this question, why wasn’t George Bush allowed to speak, Dick Cheney allowed to speak? Because they just left office 3 1/2 years ago after serving eight years, that’s unconscionable; that they weren’t there. Why? The Republicans don’t want anyone to remember who caused all this.
(APPLAUSE)
I said to my wife —
[Piers Morgan]
Right.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait, at the ’08 election, I said to my wife, you know, I wouldn’t want — you couldn’t pay me to be the next president any amount of money because whomever it is; is going to get the blame for all of what George Bush and Dick Cheney did.
[Piers Morgan]
Well –
[Jesse Ventura]
And that’s precisely what you got. Now has Obama fixed it? No. He has not. But is Mitt Romney the answer, going back to the old Republican ways that caused it in the first place? Americans have very short attention spans. They usually can only remember about a year ago. They need to remember about four, five, six years ago of who caused this.
[Piers Morgan]
Listen
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s go to our first audience member question. Derek White (ph), you have a question. On the basis of rumors still flying around, the gentleman may run for office in 2016, what is your question?
[Deryck Wyka]
Well, first, Governor, how are you doing?
[Jesse Ventura]
Good.
[Deryck Wyka]
I’d like to thank you for having the guts to serve in our armed forces. I think a lot of politicians and so-called statesmen ought to take a page out of your book.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it’s not a requirement.
(APPLAUSE)
You know. No, let’s be fair. It’s not a requirement to serve in the military, to be the commander in chief cause he’s a civilian. Maybe it’s good for a little of experience having done it, but it is not a requirement. The Constitution doesn’t say you have to.
[Piers Morgan]
Anyway, we’re not here to call you a hero. That’s not the question.
(LAUGHTER)
[Deryck Wyka]
Governor, my question is, if you were to run as independent, completely unaffiliated from any political party whatsoever, do you feel that that would help or hinder your ability to ultimately gain valid access in all 50 states?
[Jesse Ventura]
It’ll require you the people to do it for me. But you know what? I need to see that. I need to see the American people rise up before I’m going to put my butt on the line again.
[Piers Morgan]
When will you —
[Jesse Ventura]
And the only one on the line —
[Piers Morgan]
– put your butt on the line?
[Jesse Ventura]
And the only way that will help, two criteria’s must happen. There must be — and I also abhor this ridiculous spending that they do to get elected. It’s obscene. It’s obscene. (APPLAUSE) And I — and I can say that because — I can say that because when I ran for governor of Minnesota, I spent less money to get the job than what I made doing the job. I don’t think there’s an elected official that can make that statement in the last 50 years.
I only raised $300,000 to become the governor of Minnesota. The Democrats and Republicans in the same race spent a combined $12 million. And that was back in ’98.
[Piers Morgan]
But Jesse, will you be running or not, in 2016?
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t know. I need to be — I need to have valid access in all 50 states and I need some type of guarantee that I will be allowed in the debates. Because you cannot win if they won’t let you debate. But if you can debate, you can win. Because in Minnesota at the primary, I was only polling between 8 to 10% percent. I was allowed in the debates, seven weeks later I was the governor of Minnesota.
You know, they always say, Piers, in the private sector competition is good, right?
[Piers Morgan]
Uh huh
[Jesse Ventura]
Isn’t that what we always hear? Well, how come competition isn’t good for president? Why has it been 20 years since we’ve seen any third voice in a presidential debate? Because these two parties will — they make the rules and they will not let anyone else win. So I would require huge help from you the people because if I do run and I — and I run to win, I would be the first president elected in this country that would belong to no political party since George Washington. The father of our country.
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
Well, I would — I would love to see you at one of those debates, actually, Jesse. But after the break, we’re going to talk to you about Osama bin Laden and whether a Navy SEAL should be allowed to tell his story as one of the SEAL Team Six.
(APPLAUSE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
I’m back now with my special guest, Jesse Ventura, and our live studio audience. Let’s get around that audience question. This time Oliver Reynolds. Mr. Reynolds, over to you.
[Oliver Reynolds]
Good afternoon, Mr. Ventura.
[Jesse Ventura] Hi.
[Oliver Reynolds]
My question to you is, as a former Navy SEAL, do you agree or disagree with the recent released book by the six members SEAL Team and this – and the objections of the Pentagon?
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t have a problem with it. The op was over, over a year ago, and I feel, I have a right to know what went on because our entire military is paid by my tax dollars. And I believe, I have every right to know what they spend my tax dollars on. And I also would like to hear from boots on the ground. I don’t want to hear from the media what happened in the op. I don’t want to hear from bureaucrats in Washington what happened on the op. I would like to hear from boots on the ground, somebody that was op, what was actually there, so that I can make a determination…
[Piers Morgan]
But how does it help, Jesse, if I mean, my brother is a British Army Colonel and has done tours of Afghanistan, Iraq and so on.
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure.
[Piers Morgan]
How does it help operationally, if all the guys around, they’re all wondering who’s going to put this in a book? I mean surely…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well…
[Piers Morgan]
They all sign up, don’t they, to not write about their experiences?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, he is out now. He is a civilian now. And I just, you know, to me he has the First Amendment right or he should have them, if he is not giving away anything that’s listed under national security or that could affect anyone in the future operations, I say why not? Like I said, I’d like to hear from boots on the ground what actually happened there, not some fragmented story that comes out of Washington telling me what happened?
So I don’t have – and besides you, the media, and the SEALS themselves have allowed themselves to become like the Green Berets in the ‘60s and ‘70s now. I don’t like the fact that you even know we exist, because back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, nobody even knew who we were. Well, that’s out of the bag now. Hollywood’s made plenty of films. You’ve had my friend Dick Marsinco, who created SEAL Team Six, he’s written half a dozen books.
So if the creator of SEAL Team Six can write books about what they do, what the heck. If he – if he doesn’t put in jeopardy anyone, why – why is our government so up in arms about that he does this?
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
What we’re all agreed on is that the death of Osama bin Laden was a good thing. But be honest, is America any safer, now than it was when he was killed? Or from all we’re seeing now in the Middle East, all the uprisings, all the kind of reverse Arab Spring, if you like, are you concerned that it may be a hornet nest is getting out of control?
[Jesse Ventura]
No, because I think that’s lots of times these uprisings are orchestrated, I believe. I believe in the works of Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, when he said nothing just happens, everything is planned. I truly believe that. And so these uprisings that are happening right now, we don’t know really who is behind them. They could be our own CIA.
[Piers Morgan]
Did we know…
[Jesse Ventura]
Helping to do it. Who knows?
[Piers Morgan]
Did we know who we were backing? I mean that’s one of the key questions.
[Jesse Ventura]
Backing in what?
[Piers Morgan]
In Libya, in Egypt.
[Jesse Ventura]
I have no idea.
[Piers Morgan]
All these countries. When you oppose Mubarak or Gadhafi or so, did we really know who these rebels were? And are we now perhaps…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well…
[Piers Morgan]
Seeing the results of not knowing too well who they are?
[Jesse Ventura]
We’re here wanting to give democracy to people who have lived in my opinion in the Stone Age. I think the bigger question to ask is here we go, another religious war. Because most every war that happens on this planet is due to the fact of religion. One religion doesn’t like the way another religion worships God, so we’re going to kill you. Yeah, I love religion, you know, and I say that sarcastically.
[Piers Morgan]
I know. I thought …
[Jesse Ventura]
And I say that because, I’ve openly admitted, I’m an atheist.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse – I thought you said earlier that all wars were about oil and corporations.
[Jesse Ventura]
They are, but they’re all religious based too.
[Piers Morgan]
So they’re all about religion and oil and corporations?
[Jesse Ventura]
Could be. Sure.
[Piers Morgan]
And occasionally getting rid of the Nazis.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yeah
[Piers Morgan]
So my point is…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, the Nazis, wait, the Nazis wait, wait the Nazis was religious too. Look what they did to the Jews. So that brought religion in. Vietnam was religious because Diem, our puppet President, and our country brought a 100 Christian Vietnamese down to the South to be the government. Well, the Southern Vietnamese didn’t like these religious characters from up North, so they then became the Viet Cong.
So all wars pretty much in my lifetime have had some religious basis. But certainly big business gets in there because wars are very profitable to certain big businesses. And of course, big business needs to be in the Middle East so, that we can get the oil out of the Middle East, so we can get the Lithium out of Afghanistan. You know they discovered a vein of Lithium there they say is worth a trillion dollars. Well, what is Lithium used for? Every cell phone, computer, and soon to be electric cars. Let’s talk about why we’re really there. We’re not there, how is any of these wars affect our freedom in anyway? The United States is not in any threat. They’re not going to do a Normandy invasion on us, al Qaeda in Virginia.
[Piers Morgan]
Are you being naïve on, because aren’t you?
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m not being naive, sir.
[Piers Morgan]
I think you are being naive.
[Jesse Ventura]
No.
[Piers Morgan]
I think that it’s clear one of the main reasons that America went into Afghanistan was to try and get al Qaeda dismantled, the organization, which committed the 9/11 atrocity.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really?
[Piers Morgan]
Well, you don’t think so?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, how come al Qaeda put the heroin business out? They took all the poppy growers and stopped the production of heroin.
[Piers Morgan]
Why would you….
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait. Now how much of that illegal heroin was propping up the international banks with laundered money. And when it dried up, the first recession happened.
Well, now that we’re back in there, we aligned with the poppy growers and the heroin business is back up full swing again. I thought, we fight a war on drugs here.
[Piers Morgan]
All right, Jesse…
[Jesse Ventura]
Seems we’re not.
[Piers Morgan]
What would you have done on September 12, 2001? What would you have done if you’ve been President?
[Jesse Ventura]
What would I have done? I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9/11. How did they know who did this so quickly like they did Lee Harvey Oswald, how quick they knew Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy?
[Piers Morgan]
Because the people who did it were identified and we knew who they were.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then why couldn’t we have stopped them beforehand, if they were identified and we knew who they were.
[Piers Morgan]
It was a failure of intelligence, everyone accepted that.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, it wasn’t. We knew before with Condoleezza Rice’s memo on August 6th when it stated right in the memo, Bin Laden to steal planes and run them into buildings. And more stuff is coming out now also, how much the Bush administration ignored the intelligence. It was almost like they ignored it because they wanted it to happen.
[Piers Morgan]
Oh, come on, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, not, oh come off it. Every – wait a minute….
[Piers Morgan]
No, no, no…
[Jesse Ventura]
Every war starts with a false flag operation.
[Piers Morgan]
You can’t, in all seriousness, sit there and try to make out anybody…
[Jesse Ventura]
How – Okay. Let me ask you this Piers, wait a minute. Let….
[Piers Morgan]
Wanted it to happen… its ridiculous to say.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Let me ask you something. How many, how much studying have you actually done of 9/11 other than what the government’s told you and what mainstream media has told you? I have been studying it four years.
[Piers Morgan]
A lot, actually. I was editor of a national newspaper.
[Jesse Ventura]
I’ve talked, wait a minute.
[Piers Morgan]
And we accommodate in-depth every day for five, six months.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really? Really?
[Piers Morgan]
So I know a lot about it.
[Jesse Ventura]
Let me ask you this…
[Piers Morgan]
You cannot say that any member of the Bush administration knew it was going to happen and wanted it to happen. It’s a ridiculous thing to say.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ridiculous. Okay. Let’s talk about your BBC. I have a tape of a BBC reporter broadcasting directly back to England talking about a third building has collapsed, World Trade Center Building Seven, talks for seven minutes. All the while she’s talking; World Trade Center Building Seven is still standing right behind her. It didn’t fall for another half hour. Yet, they were doing a pre- broadcast back to England…
[Piers Morgan]
No. We need to take a break here.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes, it’s true. That this building fell and it hadn’t fallen yet.
[Piers Morgan]
If you’re trying to make out the British Broadcasting Company, one of the most respected news organizations in the world was inventing huge buildings falling over.
[Jesse Ventura]
They did.
[Piers Morgan]
You need to have a break, Jesse. We’ll come back after the break and we’ll talk about Israel and Iran.
[Jesse Ventura]
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? This is a fact, my friend.
(Commercial Break)
[Piers Morgan]
Back with Jesse Ventura live along with our studio audience. We left a heated debate about various theories you have about 9/11 and so on. Let’s move on to…
[Jesse Ventura]
And the government only has a theory.
[Piers Morgan]
Right. Well, the government has factual…
[Jesse Ventura]
Theirs is a theory. Their theory is 19 Islamic radicals, armed with box cutters, defeated our multi-billion dollar air defense system, all while conspiring with a bearded guy in a cave in Afghanistan.
[Piers Morgan]
That is exactly what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
Now that’s all theory, it’s a fact.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
No, Jesse that’s all.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
That’s what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really?
[Piers Morgan]
Yes. I’m sorry to kill your conspiracy theories, but that is what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then why haven’t anyone been brought up for trial?
[Piers Morgan]
Because they have died.
[Jesse Ventura]
They haven’t given one shred of evidence in a trial…
[Piers Morgan]
They all died in case you missed the story.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well then what do we got all of these guys in Gitmo for? And we’ve got the supposed confessor to it, who they water boarded 180 times to get the confession. Got news for your, Piers. If they water boarded you a 180 times, you’d confess to it.
[Piers Morgan]
You see, now you’re – you’re missing the point. On that very point, I don’t agree with Guantanamo Bay. I didn’t agree with the water boarding personally. Let’s move on. Let’s move on to…
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
To Iran and Israel. If you were the American President, with all of the jungle drums beating now about Iran, would you take any military action?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, first, let me state that Iran has to do this. Because, if you notice, the United States doesn’t mess with any country that’s got nuclear capabilities. They only mess with countries that don’t so all countries that don’t have it strive to get it, because it’s a safety mechanism to have it. So, of course, Iran’s going to try to get the stuff.
[Piers Morgan]
Should they be allowed to have it?
[Jesse Ventura]
Should they be allowed to? I don’t know.
[Piers Morgan]
Well, yes or no.
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t know.
[Piers Morgan]
You’re a man of opinions.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, I don’t …
[Piers Morgan]
You maybe running for obviously entitled to know what you think.
[Jesse Ventura]
Not right now, you don’t. I need to study it more.
[Piers Morgan]
How very convenient.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes, it is very convenient.
[Piers Morgan]
Do you know about everything that happened before 9/11. But right now when you have Iran potentially nuking itself up, you don’t have an opinion.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, let’s leave that up to the nuclear inspectors that go in there. They will tell us whether they’re nuking it up before you decide to bomb them.
[Piers Morgan]
I didn’t decide to bomb anybody.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, but you seem to be very favorable toward it.
[Piers Morgan]
You’re trying to put words into my mouth all the time, which is – it’s not a very good technique when you’re debating with somebody. You just stick with facts.
[Jesse Ventura]
You are going to – well how many political officers have you held?
[Piers Morgan]
None.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then don’t tell me how to debate because I’ve held two.
[Piers Morgan]
Oh, I’ve debated many times.
[Jesse Ventura]
But you’ve never won an election where a debate was required.
[Piers Morgan]
I think you’ve made some very sensible points and you make some crack pot points.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s your opinion.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes.
[Jesse Ventura]
How many people here think I make crack pot points?
[Piers Morgan]
Yeah
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
One. How many think I make sensible points?
(Applause)
[Jesse Ventura]
You’re in a minority, my good friend. You’re the minority.
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s I said you made some sensible points. Let’s go on to another audience question from Jared Grossman. Ask your question, Jared.
[Jared Grossmam]
Hello, Governor?
[Jesse Ventura] es.
[Jared Grossmam]
I’d like to know why you think that politics in America today, why has it become so polarized, and why has it become so hate-driven? And how do you think we can fix that?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, politics in America, the problem, the major problem is the Democrats and Republicans, as I explained in my book, “Democrips and Rebloodicans, No More Gangs in Government,” they’ve created a system based completely on bribery. Now, if we do bribery, it’s hypocrisy. If we do bribery in the private sector, we go to jail.
Yet, their entire political system is based upon bribery. Who can bribe and give the most money to the politician and now, thanks to our illustrious Supreme Court that ruled that corporations have the same right as individuals and that money is free speech, well, we’re now being inundated with so much money from the corporations buying the Democrats and Republicans, both sides, that – uh – look at this hypothetically, a foreign country could now control our elections, because all they would have to do is form a corporation, start pumping money into the super PACs.
Plus there’s no – you don’t – they don’t have to say where the money comes from, which is criminal. Every candidate should have to state openly, open disclosure where they get every dollar. You’re not getting that now. So the whole system is corrupted now.
The Democrats and Republicans are at fault because they’ve been in charge for 150 years. They can’t pass the buck on it. And until they cleanup the system, that’s what you’ve got, its bribery.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse, I’m shocked. I’ve just agreed with every word you’ve just said.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, you just want to get the crowd back on your side.
[Piers Morgan]
Not at all. Not at all. As I’ve said to you…
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m teasing you. I’m teasing you.
[Piers Morgan]
I’ve agreed with every word of it. I think the whole super PAC thing is completely out of control. And you’re right, in the end; China right now could finance a run for the presidential election with one of their sponsored people from one of their companies.
[Jesse Ventura]
I think that this ruling could be the downfall of our country. And the only way, the only way we can stop it is to amend the Constitution.
[Piers Morgan]
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s the only way you can overrule the Supreme Court and we need to do that.
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s take a break, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
Okay.
[Piers Morgan]
We’ll come back and talk about Clint Eastwood, the empty chair, and gun control.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
Back now with Jesse Ventura and our live studio audience. Gun control, this is something I’ve been very animated all this year with all the various gun outrages, especially the appalling thing at the cinema in Colorado. Why it is that Americans — to me, it seems, so many Americans can not divorce their right to defend themselves with a gun to the apparent right to go and buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition, high powered assault weapons, and go and murder Americans?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, the best thing I can tell you, Piers, is this: Mexico has strict gun control. You cannot own a gun in Mexico. And they had 20,000 people dead last year in the drug cartel wars.
[Piers Morgan]
But Mexico has a very particular problem involving drugs. I could cite you Britain —
(CROSS TALK)
[Piers Morgan]
Let me just throw back at you, in Britain, for example, an average of 35 people a year are murdered with guns. In Germany’s it’s about 40 to 50. France, the same. Spain the same. Italy, there’s a pattern here.
America, 11,000 to 12,000 a year.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
This country has more guns than anybody else and more gun murders.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
It’s inarguable, isn’t it?
[Jesse Ventura]
No, not at all. Because I was in the Philippines physically the day Ferdinand Markos declared martial law and made himself a dictator. The first thing that dictator did, he gave the people of the Philippines two weeks to turn in all their guns or it was the death penalty. Now why would a dictator do that? Why would he make his number one priority when he took over as dictator to disarm the public?
The Second Amendment is there so — and it was put in there not for hunting and fishing, like they like to say. Because back when they did it, if you didn’t hunt or fish, you didn’t eat. It was put in there so the citizens would have the ability, if their government became oppressive, they could defend themselves against oppressive government.
And I think that overrules all the gun deaths because let’s remember something, a gun is simply a tool. I have a gun safe at home, and I’ve never come home and heard those guns going off on their own. People kill people, all right? How many people here die because of car accidents of drunk driving? Do we go to the Ford Motor Company and tell them, stop making these automobiles because people get drunk and kill people in cars?
[Piers Morgan]
It’s a facile argument.
[Jesse Ventura]
It’s a what?
[Piers Morgan]
It’s a facile. There’s no equivalence between drunk driving and lethal firearms. My point —
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait a minute – A car is a 2,000 pound projectile that can go 100 miles an hour.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse – Jesse – I have no problem with an American believing that their right under the Constitution is that they can defend themselves, especially in their own home, if they’re being attacked and they have a weapon.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
It’s also against government.
[Piers Morgan]
I have a big problem with a disturbed young man, as we saw in Colorado, being able to buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a high powered assault weapon and go into a movie theater and blow away 70 Americans. I have a big problem with that.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well
[Piers Morgan]
And nobody else in America in high office seems to share that problem.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well – I’ll tell you what, Piers. I have a conceal and carry license. Had I been in there, I would have taken this guy out before he could have killed that many people.
[Piers Morgan]
Well, I think that — again —
[Jesse Ventura]
But because – Let’s remember, police can’t stop crimes. Police show up after they’re over. Remember that. So when you talk about me not being able — if there would have been a legitimate conceal and carry in that theater, quite possibly they could have taken this guy out and saved people —
[Piers Morgan]
Or you could have had the gunfight at the OK Corral in there and lost even more lives. Couldn’t you? That’s what could have happened. Anyway
[Jesse Ventura]
What role of the dice would you like? You’d prefer to be unarmed when he comes in, give me my weapon when he comes in.
[Piers Morgan]
I think this country needs to do something about its gun laws, I really do.
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t. There’s already enough gun laws. They’re already on the books.
[Piers Morgan]
Ok – Let’s come back and give you — I can’t believe I’m saying this. I’m going to give you the last word after this break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
Back with my special guest, Jesse Ventura, my studio audience. Twitter has gone crazy tonight, rather appropriately. I like this one, from BuffaloJimmyZ. He says, “the Moon landing was faked, Apollo 11 landed on Jesse Ventura’s bald head.”
(Laughing)
Jesse, as usual, you stirred it all up. How do you want to leave this. You have about 30 seconds to give a final thought.
[Jesse Ventura]
I promised a dear friend of mine that I would make this statement too tonight. Republicans are not a political party. It’s a mental condition.
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
A good friend of mine wanted me to make sure I said that tonight. So I got it out there.
[Piers Morgan]
You have been, as always, extremely provocative, entertaining, slightly crackers, but it’s always good fun to have you. Audience, thank my guest.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Thank you – Appreciate it very much. Thank you, Piers. Thank you.
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[Piers Morgan]
Good evening, and welcome to a special live edition of PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT. And welcome my audience here in the studio. I can promise you, this won’t be like an hour like you’ve never heard before with a man who is never afraid to say exactly what he thinks.
Jesse Ventura, the ex-Navy SEAL, superstar wrestler, and governor of Minnesota, answers your questions. Quiet at no time, either for the Democrats or the Republicans. And a surprising theory on who he thinks is behind the anti-American violence in the Middle East.
And here he is, Jesse Ventura.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
Good to see you.
[Jesse Ventura]
Good to see you. Thank you.
[Piers Morgan]
Good to see you.
[Jesse Ventura]
OK. Thank you. Thank you.
[Piers Morgan]
How are you, sir?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, I’ve got to get some water.
(LAUGHTER)
I’ve got to get ready for you. I’m doing good, Piers.
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
Well, we’ve got an hour ahead of us. We’ll cover lots of ground. I want to start, though, with the breaking news today. The controversial and apparently secretly taped video of Mitt Romney at a private fundraiser. The person responsible wants to remain anonymous, but “New York” magazine reports it was passed along by former President Jimmy Carter’s grandson, James Carter IV. CNN has not been able to independently verify the authenticity of the recordings, but let’s take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[Mitt Romney]
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right. There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they’re entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.
That’s an entitlement and the government should give it to them, and they will vote for this president no matter what. These are people who pay no income tax.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[Piers Morgan]
The Romney campaign released a statement in response to the issue but did not directly mentioned the video. It reads, “Mitt Romney wants to help all Americans struggling in the Obama economy. As the governor has made clear all year he’s concerned about the growing number of people who are dependent on the federal government, including the record number of people who are on food stamps, nearly one in six Americans in poverty and the 23 million Americans who are struggling to find work. Mitt Romney’s plan creates 12 million new jobs in four years, grows the economy, and moves Americans off of government dependency and into jobs.”
Jesse Ventura, you were shaking your head, murmuring all sorts of profanities under your breath there. Clearly you’re not impressed by Mitt Romney’s claim, which effectively boils down, whichever way you look at and whatever statements he puts out, that half of the American people, apparently are — well, as he put it — on the scrounge, not paying tax, victims, and living off the state.
What do you make of that?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, let’s start with taxes for a moment. Do you realize, as I cover in my book here, that these major corporations pay lobbyists more than what they pay in taxes? These corporations, these corporations that make billions of dollars pay more to lobbyists than what they pay in taxes. And maybe one of the reasons Mitt has that problem is because, when did our ill-fortunes start? Under Bush and Cheney and the Republicans. And you’re hearing this from an independent.
Because I know enough to know that the economy what you have today in the economy is the result of decisions made about three, four, or five years ago. Because that’s how long it takes for them to get into this massive economy. So in my opinion, the Republicans are the ones responsible. And when Romney says he’s going to create, well how many million jobs?
[Piers Morgan]
Twelve million was his last —
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s total hogwash, and I’ll tell you why. The only thing a government official can make — can create is a government job. So if he’s going to create 12 million new jobs, they’re going to be paid for by taxes. Because jobs are created —
[Piers Morgan]
On his specific, Jesse —
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait, Piers. Jobs are created in the private sector. Not by the president or the government unless they’re government jobs.
[Piers Morgan]
We’ll come to job stimulation a little later in the show, but on this specific point, Mitt Romney’s been found on tape at a private fundraiser, trying to raise cash, we think a few months ago. But this point that basically everyone who votes for Obama or the vast majority are victims, don’t pay taxes, what we believe, this is just a theory, a theory you’ve got the 47 percent, may have come from the Tax Policy Center, which found that 46.4 percent of households pay no federal income tax in 2011.
But most households did pay payroll taxes. Now the 18% percent of houses that paid neither income taxes or payroll taxes, the center found more than half of those were elderly and more than a third were not elderly but had an income under $20,000 dollars. So when you put it all together like that, this is a bit of a clanger on Mitt Romney.
This will be portrayed by the Democrats, I think, very strongly from now until election as a guy dismissing half of America as people who are just victims, living off the state.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it shows me that Mitt Romney probably lives in a world that I don’t live in. You know? He lives in a world — I hear he’s worth, what, $250 million? And he comes from wealth. And most people I find that are born with that kind of money truly don’t know what it’s like to be out there.
I mean, you know, I remember when I started years ago on my pro- wrestling career when I’d just gotten out of the United States Navy, I left with a beat-up car and 250 bucks, and that’s all I had to my name. When I went off to start my pro wrestling career.
[Piers Morgan]
There’s a statement from the Obama campaign that’s just been released. It says, “It’s shocking that a candidate for president of United States would go behind doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as victims, entitled to handouts and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their lives. It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation.”
I mean, they’ve got a point. And I think it’s an embarrassing thing for Mitt Romney, however he tries to spin this.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it seems Mitt Romney lately has been saying a lot of embarrassing things. You know, and he’s certainly not going to endear yourself to 47 percent of the country, and I would think it’s going to be quite hard to win. But maybe their plan is that they’ve got these new voter registration laws to where they can deny 45% percent of the country of the ability to vote.
You know, maybe that’s their ultimate plan is to only get to half the country and let only half the country vote in the first place. Because on that note, this whole thing’s a farce. Voter fraud is a complete red flag. There’s – there’s about as much voter fraud in this country as there is people being struck by lightning bolts. I know that from a governor standpoint. Voter fraud is nothing, and yet they’re trying to give everybody an I.D. card. Poor people would have to pay $35 bucks to go get a state I.D.
Well, if you’re that poor, $35 might be the difference between whether you eat that day or not. Well, what do you think a person’s going to do? They’re going to go get food. If it’s that bad. And I think the pathetic thing is that our country is in this kind of shape and who’s responsible? These two major parties. They’ve been in charge for 150 years.
[Piers Morgan]
Mitt Romney’s had a rough week because of the Benghazi incident in which he was deemed by most people, including many on his own side, to have jumped in with a critical statement of the President. Really without knowing all the facts and turning into a political football — when most people thought that was the wrong thing to be doing.
[Jesse Ventura]
I agree.
[Piers Morgan]
As an American politician at that time.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, absolutely. When our country’s attacked in any way, shape or form, we need to pull together, we need to come together, not separate at that point. I mean, you want my — what I would do over there? I would do what the pinnacle of the Republican Party, the hero, whatever, modern day Ronald Reagan did.
Do you recall when our — back in the ’80s when the barracks in Lebanon was hit —
[Piers Morgan]
Ya.
[Jesse Ventura]
– then over 200 Marines were killed, did Ronald Reagan go to war? No, he got us the hell out of there. And that’s where I stand on this. If these people don’t want us over there, let’s close our embassies, I stand with Ron Paul, let’s get rid of foreign aid altogether. Because as Ron Paul put it, the definition of foreign aid, that’s taking from America’s poor and giving it to another country’s rich.
[Piers Morgan]
But hang on. Hang on, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait a minute.
[Piers Morgan]
You wait a minute. It’s my show. You wait a minute. Hey.
[Jesse Ventura]
Hey.
[Piers Morgan]
Let me – just challenging you —
[Jesse Ventura]
Hey, I’m talking.
[Piers Morgan]
I’m challenging you.
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
Because I think that is taking one extreme and going to the other. It may well be that America has too many embassies, has too much say in too many countries.
[Jesse Ventura]
We’re also broke.
[Piers Morgan]
Of course, you know, any country —
[Jesse Ventura]
How can we give to foreign aide?
[Piers Morgan]
You’re not the only country that’ broken the rule like that.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, yes. We’re giving foreign aid. On a basic term for you people, that would be the equivalent, you’re losing your house, you’re three payments behind on your car, but your cousin Bob from out of state needs to borrow $500 bucks from you. Are you going to send it?
[Piers Morgan]
Well it depends – well Jesse
[Jesse Ventura]
When you can’t even make your own house payment? We’re broke. How in debt are we?
[Piers Morgan]
Well, you’re certainly not as broke as many countries around the world.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, if they’re worse and in more debt than us, I want to see a country that can say they have more debt than we do.
[Piers Morgan]
America remains a superpower. And America —
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure we are.
[Piers Morgan]
And all superpowers, I believe, have a responsibility to other countries around the world. Now it may —
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t.
[Piers Morgan]
Really?
[Jesse Ventura]
No.
[Piers Morgan]
You don’t think Americans have any involvement in any country in the world?
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure we can have involvement if they ask us. Since when should we be the world’s policeman? Why do we have military bases in 160-something countries? We have no — no foreign country has a base here. Imagine if Hugo Chavez decided to buy 1,000 acres of land by Palm Springs and move the Venezuelan military in there?
What do you think our reaction would be to that? Yet we have multiple bases in Korea, multiple bases in Japan, multiple bases in Germany. And Piers, last time I checked, those wars were over 60 years ago. Why are we still there?
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
Well, the argument would be to prevent another war in that nature
(LAUGHTER)
[Piers Morgan]
Why — by why would you laugh at that? Isn’t that a reality?
[Jesse Ventura]
Because our military today —
(CROSSTALK)
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
There’s lots of people out there who would like to harm America and its interest.
[Jesse Ventura]
Our military today is so advanced, we can be anywhere in the world in a matter of seconds. Minutes or hours, we do not need to be an empire like Rome occupying with our military throughout the world and if you’ve noticed, I’m getting nothing but nods out here, Piers.
[Piers Morgan]
You think America would be safer.
[Jesse Ventura]
From regular Americans —
[Piers Morgan]
Would America be safer?
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure, we’d be safe.
[Piers Morgan]
Without any embassies in any country?
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m not saying necessarily to get rid of embassies. Absolutely have embassies. But if these Middle Eastern countries are going to behave towards us the way they do, then let’s get the hell out of there and leave them to their own.
You’ve got to remember something. I urge people to read the writings of Major General Smedley Butler. General Butler died in the early ’40s, but he was the most decorated Marine in history. He won two Congressional Medals of Honor. And he wrote a book called “War is a Racket.” And in that book, and this was way at the beginning of last century, he said I didn’t defend the American people’s freedom, I worked for the United Fruit Corporation.
When they went into Central and South America, if they didn’t get cooperation, they’d sent in the U.S. Marines to get it.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes, but that wasn’t true —
[Jesse Ventura]
Enough of that.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes, but that wasn’t true about the Second World War, was it?
[Jesse Ventura]
Probably not.
[Piers Morgan]
Definitely it wasn’t.
[Jesse Ventura]
Right.
[Piers Morgan]
That was a violent —
[Jesse Ventura]
But you’re apples and oranges here.
[Jesse Ventura]
You’re apples and oranges here.
[Piers Morgan]
No, we’re not. You’re saying —
[Jesse Ventura]
How can you compare the Second World War to —
[Piers Morgan]
You’re saying —
[Jesse Ventura]
To us being thing strong arm of multinational corporations.
[Piers Morgan]
You were effectively telling this audience and the audience at home that wars are always of that nature. And they’re not. The reality is sometimes you have to oppress a bad guy, don’t you?
[Jesse Ventura]
All right. All right, OK. Let’s take my lifetime. I was born post World War II, 1951.
[Piers Morgan]
Uh huh
[Jesse Ventura]
Now if you count the Cold War and the war on drugs, which the war on drugs is a war I lived four months of the year in Mexico, 20,000 Mexicans, I believe, died last year as a result of the war on drugs.
Do you realize we’ve been at war my entire life? My entire life. We have been at war. Is that the role of the United States? Perennial war? At war all the time?
[Piers Morgan]
No.
[Jesse Ventura]
No. I’ve had enough of it. Let’s listen to Jimi Hendrix for a moment who is on my shirt.
[Piers Morgan]
(INAUDIBLE).
[Jesse Ventura]
Jimmy Hendrix. Quote from Jimmy Hendrix. The greatest guitar player —
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
That’s the first time they’ve applauded you in the last 10 minutes.
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
Was when you evoked the name of Jimmy Hendrix.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait. Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Hendrix. When the power of love overtakes the love of power, then we’ll have peace. When the power of love overtakes the love of power, then we’ll have peace.
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
On that — on that musical bombshell, we’ll take a short break. When we come back, apparently, and I’m certainly hesitant to confirm this yet, we’ll ask you after the break, you’re going to make a run for the White House in 2016.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
“Saturday Night Live” having fun at Mitt Romney’s expense. And back with me now is Jesse Ventura. His new book is “DemoCRIPS and ReBLOODlicans: No More Gangs in Government.” With me live along with our studio audience.
Here’s the thing, you can flip this around. Everyone’s having a laugh at Mitt Romney’s expense and they’re all saying Obama’s stretching ahead in the polls and so on. But the reality is, Barack Obama’s been there four years, unemployment remains at an incredibly unacceptable figure of over 8% percent.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
You’ve got lots of people suffering, losing homes, jobs, livelihoods. Why should he get another four years?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, because —
[Piers Morgan]
However many gaffes Mitt Romney may be making —
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes.
[Piers Morgan]
– he is a very experienced,
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
- successful businessman.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
Could he not do a better job?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, first of all, they posed the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago? I would say, yes. George Bush and Dick Cheney are gone. So no matter what —
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
– we’re better off today than we were four years ago.
[Piers Morgan]
You can rephrase —
[Jesse Ventura]
Let’s remember —
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s rephrase the question and see how the audience reacts. How many in this audience personally, financially, feel genuinely better off after four years? If you do, applaud.
(APPLAUSE)
OK. And if you don’t, applaud now.
(APPLAUSE)
So, you know, it’s probably about 50-50. So half of this —
[Jesse Ventura]
No. I got that at about 70-30.
(LAUGHTER)
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s put it at 60-40.
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
All right. I’m compromise.
[Piers Morgan]
Maybe 60-40. But whatever it was, certainly a number of people in the room —
[Jesse Ventura]
OK.
[Piers Morgan]
– would agree they’re not better off.
[Jesse Ventura]
OK. But let’s get to brass tax here. And again, I’m the independent. In the economy, things that are done three, four, five years ago show up today. So when the recession of what we had hit, which Barack Obama inherited, Bush did the first bailout. That was because it hit in ’08 because of decisions done in ’03,’04, when you had a Republican president, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.
Why – why at the Republican convention, and I ask you this question, why wasn’t George Bush allowed to speak, Dick Cheney allowed to speak? Because they just left office 3 1/2 years ago after serving eight years, that’s unconscionable; that they weren’t there. Why? The Republicans don’t want anyone to remember who caused all this.
(APPLAUSE)
I said to my wife —
[Piers Morgan]
Right.
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait, at the ’08 election, I said to my wife, you know, I wouldn’t want — you couldn’t pay me to be the next president any amount of money because whomever it is; is going to get the blame for all of what George Bush and Dick Cheney did.
[Piers Morgan]
Well –
[Jesse Ventura]
And that’s precisely what you got. Now has Obama fixed it? No. He has not. But is Mitt Romney the answer, going back to the old Republican ways that caused it in the first place? Americans have very short attention spans. They usually can only remember about a year ago. They need to remember about four, five, six years ago of who caused this.
[Piers Morgan]
Listen
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s go to our first audience member question. Derek White (ph), you have a question. On the basis of rumors still flying around, the gentleman may run for office in 2016, what is your question?
[Deryck Wyka]
Well, first, Governor, how are you doing?
[Jesse Ventura]
Good.
[Deryck Wyka]
I’d like to thank you for having the guts to serve in our armed forces. I think a lot of politicians and so-called statesmen ought to take a page out of your book.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, it’s not a requirement.
(APPLAUSE)
You know. No, let’s be fair. It’s not a requirement to serve in the military, to be the commander in chief cause he’s a civilian. Maybe it’s good for a little of experience having done it, but it is not a requirement. The Constitution doesn’t say you have to.
[Piers Morgan]
Anyway, we’re not here to call you a hero. That’s not the question.
(LAUGHTER)
[Deryck Wyka]
Governor, my question is, if you were to run as independent, completely unaffiliated from any political party whatsoever, do you feel that that would help or hinder your ability to ultimately gain valid access in all 50 states?
[Jesse Ventura]
It’ll require you the people to do it for me. But you know what? I need to see that. I need to see the American people rise up before I’m going to put my butt on the line again.
[Piers Morgan]
When will you —
[Jesse Ventura]
And the only one on the line —
[Piers Morgan]
– put your butt on the line?
[Jesse Ventura]
And the only way that will help, two criteria’s must happen. There must be — and I also abhor this ridiculous spending that they do to get elected. It’s obscene. It’s obscene. (APPLAUSE) And I — and I can say that because — I can say that because when I ran for governor of Minnesota, I spent less money to get the job than what I made doing the job. I don’t think there’s an elected official that can make that statement in the last 50 years.
I only raised $300,000 to become the governor of Minnesota. The Democrats and Republicans in the same race spent a combined $12 million. And that was back in ’98.
[Piers Morgan]
But Jesse, will you be running or not, in 2016?
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t know. I need to be — I need to have valid access in all 50 states and I need some type of guarantee that I will be allowed in the debates. Because you cannot win if they won’t let you debate. But if you can debate, you can win. Because in Minnesota at the primary, I was only polling between 8 to 10% percent. I was allowed in the debates, seven weeks later I was the governor of Minnesota.
You know, they always say, Piers, in the private sector competition is good, right?
[Piers Morgan]
Uh huh
[Jesse Ventura]
Isn’t that what we always hear? Well, how come competition isn’t good for president? Why has it been 20 years since we’ve seen any third voice in a presidential debate? Because these two parties will — they make the rules and they will not let anyone else win. So I would require huge help from you the people because if I do run and I — and I run to win, I would be the first president elected in this country that would belong to no political party since George Washington. The father of our country.
(APPLAUSE)
[Piers Morgan]
Well, I would — I would love to see you at one of those debates, actually, Jesse. But after the break, we’re going to talk to you about Osama bin Laden and whether a Navy SEAL should be allowed to tell his story as one of the SEAL Team Six.
(APPLAUSE)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
I’m back now with my special guest, Jesse Ventura, and our live studio audience. Let’s get around that audience question. This time Oliver Reynolds. Mr. Reynolds, over to you.
[Oliver Reynolds]
Good afternoon, Mr. Ventura.
[Jesse Ventura] Hi.
[Oliver Reynolds]
My question to you is, as a former Navy SEAL, do you agree or disagree with the recent released book by the six members SEAL Team and this – and the objections of the Pentagon?
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t have a problem with it. The op was over, over a year ago, and I feel, I have a right to know what went on because our entire military is paid by my tax dollars. And I believe, I have every right to know what they spend my tax dollars on. And I also would like to hear from boots on the ground. I don’t want to hear from the media what happened in the op. I don’t want to hear from bureaucrats in Washington what happened on the op. I would like to hear from boots on the ground, somebody that was op, what was actually there, so that I can make a determination…
[Piers Morgan]
But how does it help, Jesse, if I mean, my brother is a British Army Colonel and has done tours of Afghanistan, Iraq and so on.
[Jesse Ventura]
Sure.
[Piers Morgan]
How does it help operationally, if all the guys around, they’re all wondering who’s going to put this in a book? I mean surely…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well…
[Piers Morgan]
They all sign up, don’t they, to not write about their experiences?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, he is out now. He is a civilian now. And I just, you know, to me he has the First Amendment right or he should have them, if he is not giving away anything that’s listed under national security or that could affect anyone in the future operations, I say why not? Like I said, I’d like to hear from boots on the ground what actually happened there, not some fragmented story that comes out of Washington telling me what happened?
So I don’t have – and besides you, the media, and the SEALS themselves have allowed themselves to become like the Green Berets in the ‘60s and ‘70s now. I don’t like the fact that you even know we exist, because back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, nobody even knew who we were. Well, that’s out of the bag now. Hollywood’s made plenty of films. You’ve had my friend Dick Marsinco, who created SEAL Team Six, he’s written half a dozen books.
So if the creator of SEAL Team Six can write books about what they do, what the heck. If he – if he doesn’t put in jeopardy anyone, why – why is our government so up in arms about that he does this?
[Piers Morgan] Source: LYBIO.net
What we’re all agreed on is that the death of Osama bin Laden was a good thing. But be honest, is America any safer, now than it was when he was killed? Or from all we’re seeing now in the Middle East, all the uprisings, all the kind of reverse Arab Spring, if you like, are you concerned that it may be a hornet nest is getting out of control?
[Jesse Ventura]
No, because I think that’s lots of times these uprisings are orchestrated, I believe. I believe in the works of Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, when he said nothing just happens, everything is planned. I truly believe that. And so these uprisings that are happening right now, we don’t know really who is behind them. They could be our own CIA.
[Piers Morgan]
Did we know…
[Jesse Ventura]
Helping to do it. Who knows?
[Piers Morgan]
Did we know who we were backing? I mean that’s one of the key questions.
[Jesse Ventura]
Backing in what?
[Piers Morgan]
In Libya, in Egypt.
[Jesse Ventura]
I have no idea.
[Piers Morgan]
All these countries. When you oppose Mubarak or Gadhafi or so, did we really know who these rebels were? And are we now perhaps…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well…
[Piers Morgan]
Seeing the results of not knowing too well who they are?
[Jesse Ventura]
We’re here wanting to give democracy to people who have lived in my opinion in the Stone Age. I think the bigger question to ask is here we go, another religious war. Because most every war that happens on this planet is due to the fact of religion. One religion doesn’t like the way another religion worships God, so we’re going to kill you. Yeah, I love religion, you know, and I say that sarcastically.
[Piers Morgan]
I know. I thought …
[Jesse Ventura]
And I say that because, I’ve openly admitted, I’m an atheist.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse – I thought you said earlier that all wars were about oil and corporations.
[Jesse Ventura]
They are, but they’re all religious based too.
[Piers Morgan]
So they’re all about religion and oil and corporations?
[Jesse Ventura]
Could be. Sure.
[Piers Morgan]
And occasionally getting rid of the Nazis.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yeah
[Piers Morgan]
So my point is…
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, the Nazis, wait, the Nazis wait, wait the Nazis was religious too. Look what they did to the Jews. So that brought religion in. Vietnam was religious because Diem, our puppet President, and our country brought a 100 Christian Vietnamese down to the South to be the government. Well, the Southern Vietnamese didn’t like these religious characters from up North, so they then became the Viet Cong.
So all wars pretty much in my lifetime have had some religious basis. But certainly big business gets in there because wars are very profitable to certain big businesses. And of course, big business needs to be in the Middle East so, that we can get the oil out of the Middle East, so we can get the Lithium out of Afghanistan. You know they discovered a vein of Lithium there they say is worth a trillion dollars. Well, what is Lithium used for? Every cell phone, computer, and soon to be electric cars. Let’s talk about why we’re really there. We’re not there, how is any of these wars affect our freedom in anyway? The United States is not in any threat. They’re not going to do a Normandy invasion on us, al Qaeda in Virginia.
[Piers Morgan]
Are you being naïve on, because aren’t you?
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m not being naive, sir.
[Piers Morgan]
I think you are being naive.
[Jesse Ventura]
No.
[Piers Morgan]
I think that it’s clear one of the main reasons that America went into Afghanistan was to try and get al Qaeda dismantled, the organization, which committed the 9/11 atrocity.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really?
[Piers Morgan]
Well, you don’t think so?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, how come al Qaeda put the heroin business out? They took all the poppy growers and stopped the production of heroin.
[Piers Morgan]
Why would you….
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait. Now how much of that illegal heroin was propping up the international banks with laundered money. And when it dried up, the first recession happened.
Well, now that we’re back in there, we aligned with the poppy growers and the heroin business is back up full swing again. I thought, we fight a war on drugs here.
[Piers Morgan]
All right, Jesse…
[Jesse Ventura]
Seems we’re not.
[Piers Morgan]
What would you have done on September 12, 2001? What would you have done if you’ve been President?
[Jesse Ventura]
What would I have done? I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9/11. How did they know who did this so quickly like they did Lee Harvey Oswald, how quick they knew Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy?
[Piers Morgan]
Because the people who did it were identified and we knew who they were.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then why couldn’t we have stopped them beforehand, if they were identified and we knew who they were.
[Piers Morgan]
It was a failure of intelligence, everyone accepted that.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, it wasn’t. We knew before with Condoleezza Rice’s memo on August 6th when it stated right in the memo, Bin Laden to steal planes and run them into buildings. And more stuff is coming out now also, how much the Bush administration ignored the intelligence. It was almost like they ignored it because they wanted it to happen.
[Piers Morgan]
Oh, come on, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, not, oh come off it. Every – wait a minute….
[Piers Morgan]
No, no, no…
[Jesse Ventura]
Every war starts with a false flag operation.
[Piers Morgan]
You can’t, in all seriousness, sit there and try to make out anybody…
[Jesse Ventura]
How – Okay. Let me ask you this Piers, wait a minute. Let….
[Piers Morgan]
Wanted it to happen… its ridiculous to say.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Let me ask you something. How many, how much studying have you actually done of 9/11 other than what the government’s told you and what mainstream media has told you? I have been studying it four years.
[Piers Morgan]
A lot, actually. I was editor of a national newspaper.
[Jesse Ventura]
I’ve talked, wait a minute.
[Piers Morgan]
And we accommodate in-depth every day for five, six months.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really? Really?
[Piers Morgan]
So I know a lot about it.
[Jesse Ventura]
Let me ask you this…
[Piers Morgan]
You cannot say that any member of the Bush administration knew it was going to happen and wanted it to happen. It’s a ridiculous thing to say.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ridiculous. Okay. Let’s talk about your BBC. I have a tape of a BBC reporter broadcasting directly back to England talking about a third building has collapsed, World Trade Center Building Seven, talks for seven minutes. All the while she’s talking; World Trade Center Building Seven is still standing right behind her. It didn’t fall for another half hour. Yet, they were doing a pre- broadcast back to England…
[Piers Morgan]
No. We need to take a break here.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes, it’s true. That this building fell and it hadn’t fallen yet.
[Piers Morgan]
If you’re trying to make out the British Broadcasting Company, one of the most respected news organizations in the world was inventing huge buildings falling over.
[Jesse Ventura]
They did.
[Piers Morgan]
You need to have a break, Jesse. We’ll come back after the break and we’ll talk about Israel and Iran.
[Jesse Ventura]
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? This is a fact, my friend.
(Commercial Break)
[Piers Morgan]
Back with Jesse Ventura live along with our studio audience. We left a heated debate about various theories you have about 9/11 and so on. Let’s move on to…
[Jesse Ventura]
And the government only has a theory.
[Piers Morgan]
Right. Well, the government has factual…
[Jesse Ventura]
Theirs is a theory. Their theory is 19 Islamic radicals, armed with box cutters, defeated our multi-billion dollar air defense system, all while conspiring with a bearded guy in a cave in Afghanistan.
[Piers Morgan]
That is exactly what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
Now that’s all theory, it’s a fact.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
No, Jesse that’s all.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s their theory.
[Piers Morgan]
That’s what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
Really?
[Piers Morgan]
Yes. I’m sorry to kill your conspiracy theories, but that is what happened.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then why haven’t anyone been brought up for trial?
[Piers Morgan]
Because they have died.
[Jesse Ventura]
They haven’t given one shred of evidence in a trial…
[Piers Morgan]
They all died in case you missed the story.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well then what do we got all of these guys in Gitmo for? And we’ve got the supposed confessor to it, who they water boarded 180 times to get the confession. Got news for your, Piers. If they water boarded you a 180 times, you’d confess to it.
[Piers Morgan]
You see, now you’re – you’re missing the point. On that very point, I don’t agree with Guantanamo Bay. I didn’t agree with the water boarding personally. Let’s move on. Let’s move on to…
[Jesse Ventura]
All right.
[Piers Morgan]
To Iran and Israel. If you were the American President, with all of the jungle drums beating now about Iran, would you take any military action?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, first, let me state that Iran has to do this. Because, if you notice, the United States doesn’t mess with any country that’s got nuclear capabilities. They only mess with countries that don’t so all countries that don’t have it strive to get it, because it’s a safety mechanism to have it. So, of course, Iran’s going to try to get the stuff.
[Piers Morgan]
Should they be allowed to have it?
[Jesse Ventura]
Should they be allowed to? I don’t know.
[Piers Morgan]
Well, yes or no.
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t know.
[Piers Morgan]
You’re a man of opinions.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, I don’t …
[Piers Morgan]
You maybe running for obviously entitled to know what you think.
[Jesse Ventura]
Not right now, you don’t. I need to study it more.
[Piers Morgan]
How very convenient.
[Jesse Ventura]
Yes, it is very convenient.
[Piers Morgan]
Do you know about everything that happened before 9/11. But right now when you have Iran potentially nuking itself up, you don’t have an opinion.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, let’s leave that up to the nuclear inspectors that go in there. They will tell us whether they’re nuking it up before you decide to bomb them.
[Piers Morgan]
I didn’t decide to bomb anybody.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, but you seem to be very favorable toward it.
[Piers Morgan]
You’re trying to put words into my mouth all the time, which is – it’s not a very good technique when you’re debating with somebody. You just stick with facts.
[Jesse Ventura]
You are going to – well how many political officers have you held?
[Piers Morgan]
None.
[Jesse Ventura]
Then don’t tell me how to debate because I’ve held two.
[Piers Morgan]
Oh, I’ve debated many times.
[Jesse Ventura]
But you’ve never won an election where a debate was required.
[Piers Morgan]
I think you’ve made some very sensible points and you make some crack pot points.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s your opinion.
[Piers Morgan]
Yes.
[Jesse Ventura]
How many people here think I make crack pot points?
[Piers Morgan]
Yeah
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
One. How many think I make sensible points?
(Applause)
[Jesse Ventura]
You’re in a minority, my good friend. You’re the minority.
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s I said you made some sensible points. Let’s go on to another audience question from Jared Grossman. Ask your question, Jared.
[Jared Grossmam]
Hello, Governor?
[Jesse Ventura] es.
[Jared Grossmam]
I’d like to know why you think that politics in America today, why has it become so polarized, and why has it become so hate-driven? And how do you think we can fix that?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, politics in America, the problem, the major problem is the Democrats and Republicans, as I explained in my book, “Democrips and Rebloodicans, No More Gangs in Government,” they’ve created a system based completely on bribery. Now, if we do bribery, it’s hypocrisy. If we do bribery in the private sector, we go to jail.
Yet, their entire political system is based upon bribery. Who can bribe and give the most money to the politician and now, thanks to our illustrious Supreme Court that ruled that corporations have the same right as individuals and that money is free speech, well, we’re now being inundated with so much money from the corporations buying the Democrats and Republicans, both sides, that – uh – look at this hypothetically, a foreign country could now control our elections, because all they would have to do is form a corporation, start pumping money into the super PACs.
Plus there’s no – you don’t – they don’t have to say where the money comes from, which is criminal. Every candidate should have to state openly, open disclosure where they get every dollar. You’re not getting that now. So the whole system is corrupted now.
The Democrats and Republicans are at fault because they’ve been in charge for 150 years. They can’t pass the buck on it. And until they cleanup the system, that’s what you’ve got, its bribery.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse, I’m shocked. I’ve just agreed with every word you’ve just said.
[Jesse Ventura]
No, you just want to get the crowd back on your side.
[Piers Morgan]
Not at all. Not at all. As I’ve said to you…
[Jesse Ventura]
I’m teasing you. I’m teasing you.
[Piers Morgan]
I’ve agreed with every word of it. I think the whole super PAC thing is completely out of control. And you’re right, in the end; China right now could finance a run for the presidential election with one of their sponsored people from one of their companies.
[Jesse Ventura]
I think that this ruling could be the downfall of our country. And the only way, the only way we can stop it is to amend the Constitution.
[Piers Morgan]
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
[Jesse Ventura]
That’s the only way you can overrule the Supreme Court and we need to do that.
[Piers Morgan]
Let’s take a break, Jesse.
[Jesse Ventura]
Okay.
[Piers Morgan]
We’ll come back and talk about Clint Eastwood, the empty chair, and gun control.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
Back now with Jesse Ventura and our live studio audience. Gun control, this is something I’ve been very animated all this year with all the various gun outrages, especially the appalling thing at the cinema in Colorado. Why it is that Americans — to me, it seems, so many Americans can not divorce their right to defend themselves with a gun to the apparent right to go and buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition, high powered assault weapons, and go and murder Americans?
[Jesse Ventura]
Well, the best thing I can tell you, Piers, is this: Mexico has strict gun control. You cannot own a gun in Mexico. And they had 20,000 people dead last year in the drug cartel wars.
[Piers Morgan]
But Mexico has a very particular problem involving drugs. I could cite you Britain —
(CROSS TALK)
[Piers Morgan]
Let me just throw back at you, in Britain, for example, an average of 35 people a year are murdered with guns. In Germany’s it’s about 40 to 50. France, the same. Spain the same. Italy, there’s a pattern here.
America, 11,000 to 12,000 a year.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
This country has more guns than anybody else and more gun murders.
[Jesse Ventura]
Ya.
[Piers Morgan]
It’s inarguable, isn’t it?
[Jesse Ventura]
No, not at all. Because I was in the Philippines physically the day Ferdinand Markos declared martial law and made himself a dictator. The first thing that dictator did, he gave the people of the Philippines two weeks to turn in all their guns or it was the death penalty. Now why would a dictator do that? Why would he make his number one priority when he took over as dictator to disarm the public?
The Second Amendment is there so — and it was put in there not for hunting and fishing, like they like to say. Because back when they did it, if you didn’t hunt or fish, you didn’t eat. It was put in there so the citizens would have the ability, if their government became oppressive, they could defend themselves against oppressive government.
And I think that overrules all the gun deaths because let’s remember something, a gun is simply a tool. I have a gun safe at home, and I’ve never come home and heard those guns going off on their own. People kill people, all right? How many people here die because of car accidents of drunk driving? Do we go to the Ford Motor Company and tell them, stop making these automobiles because people get drunk and kill people in cars?
[Piers Morgan]
It’s a facile argument.
[Jesse Ventura]
It’s a what?
[Piers Morgan]
It’s a facile. There’s no equivalence between drunk driving and lethal firearms. My point —
[Jesse Ventura]
Wait a minute – A car is a 2,000 pound projectile that can go 100 miles an hour.
[Piers Morgan]
Jesse – Jesse – I have no problem with an American believing that their right under the Constitution is that they can defend themselves, especially in their own home, if they’re being attacked and they have a weapon.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
It’s also against government.
[Piers Morgan]
I have a big problem with a disturbed young man, as we saw in Colorado, being able to buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a high powered assault weapon and go into a movie theater and blow away 70 Americans. I have a big problem with that.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well
[Piers Morgan]
And nobody else in America in high office seems to share that problem.
[Jesse Ventura]
Well – I’ll tell you what, Piers. I have a conceal and carry license. Had I been in there, I would have taken this guy out before he could have killed that many people.
[Piers Morgan]
Well, I think that — again —
[Jesse Ventura]
But because – Let’s remember, police can’t stop crimes. Police show up after they’re over. Remember that. So when you talk about me not being able — if there would have been a legitimate conceal and carry in that theater, quite possibly they could have taken this guy out and saved people —
[Piers Morgan]
Or you could have had the gunfight at the OK Corral in there and lost even more lives. Couldn’t you? That’s what could have happened. Anyway
[Jesse Ventura]
What role of the dice would you like? You’d prefer to be unarmed when he comes in, give me my weapon when he comes in.
[Piers Morgan]
I think this country needs to do something about its gun laws, I really do.
[Jesse Ventura]
I don’t. There’s already enough gun laws. They’re already on the books.
[Piers Morgan]
Ok – Let’s come back and give you — I can’t believe I’m saying this. I’m going to give you the last word after this break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[Piers Morgan]
Back with my special guest, Jesse Ventura, my studio audience. Twitter has gone crazy tonight, rather appropriately. I like this one, from BuffaloJimmyZ. He says, “the Moon landing was faked, Apollo 11 landed on Jesse Ventura’s bald head.”
(Laughing)
Jesse, as usual, you stirred it all up. How do you want to leave this. You have about 30 seconds to give a final thought.
[Jesse Ventura]
I promised a dear friend of mine that I would make this statement too tonight. Republicans are not a political party. It’s a mental condition.
(APPLAUSE)
[Jesse Ventura]
A good friend of mine wanted me to make sure I said that tonight. So I got it out there.
[Piers Morgan]
You have been, as always, extremely provocative, entertaining, slightly crackers, but it’s always good fun to have you. Audience, thank my guest.
[Jesse Ventura] Source: LYBIO.net
Thank you – Appreciate it very much. Thank you, Piers. Thank you.
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