Active Duty Soldier Illegally Disarmed And Arrested

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[Active Duty Soldier Illegally Disarmed And Arrested]

You’re trying to disarm me illegally.

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
I am going to disarm you.

Illegally.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
No, sir.

Am I threatening you?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Once I find out there is no issue, then we’re okay…

Am I doing something against the law?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Then you’re going to be on your way.

Am I doing something against the law?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Keep yours hands away from the gun.

I don’t have my hand near the gun.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Put your other hand away from the gun.

I’m holding my camera.

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
Get it away from the gun.

It’s away from the gun.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Okay.

Now you’re going to let me go?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
No, I’m not going to let you go.

You’re about to get yourself a civil lawsuit.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
You can get a civil lawsuit, whatever we need to do, right now until I find out you can legally have the gun and you can be out of here.

Do I need a license to hold this gun? Don’t, dude, I’m telling you right now, we’re having – Chris. Wait, I’ll tell you what, let me give my camera to my son and I will do everything you ask.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Put your hand behind your back.

Chris, come here and get my camera. Chris, come here and get my camera. I’m taking my camera off. I’m not touching my gun. Okay, let go this camera for a second, take it, untie it. There you go. Now I want you to record this. Is it recording?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Put your hands behind your back.

Let me see the back side.

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
Put your hand behind your back.

Okay, now I’m going to do everything you say, hey.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Put your hand…

Hey, dude, there, my hands are behind my back. No, Chris, keep the camera on me.

[Son - Chris]
It’s on you.

Could I ask you what I was doing wrong?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
I’ll tell you, I can find that you illegally…

So you can just stop anybody in the world?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
For rudely displaying, yeah.

How am I rudely displaying a gun? I’m walking. Just unhook it right there. Keep the camera on me.

[Son - Chris]
It is.

Can you guys get a supervisor out here?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Here is the sergeant.

Good. Make sure it’s on me and this officer, who’s been putting me out of control. Sir, is it against the law to carry an open firearm like that? Well, let me ask – answer your a question. No it’s not! I have done nothing illegal. But yet this guy decides to throw me against the car when I’ve done nothing.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
He has right to disarm you.

No, he has no right to disarm me if I’m not breaking the law.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Yes, he does because…

No, he does not.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Yes, sir, he does.

No, he doesn’t. If he feels threatened, he may disarm me.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Do you have identification?

But I have done nothing.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Where is your identification?

Shut up. I’m talking to your sergeant…

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Where is your identification?

Friggin’ sergeant right now. It’s in my pocket.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Which pocket?

This one right here. Wait – whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, am I accused of crime? I am not – I do not consent you going through my wallet. I do not consent to you going through my wallet. Is this on camera?

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
Do you have any more guns?

I do not – yes, I do. I have a 45 on my side, on my left side.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Do you have a concealed carry…

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Do you have a seal?

Yes, I have a concealed carry permit. Sir, you have no right to go through that, I’m telling you right now.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
It’s the law you have to present that to us –

Yeah, he didn’t ask me for it, did he?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Not with you carrying this notion, I wouldn’t have asked you either.

You got to be asked me for my concealed carry permit.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Not for this – no.

But even if I had a conceal – did not have a concealed carry permit, I can walk around with the rifle.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
When you alarm people and they call us and then we can come and we can investigate.

Okay, and did you explain to them what the law is, sir?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
They don’t care what the law is. They’re are alarmed.

Do you care what the law is?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
This day and age, they are alarmed and they see somebody with weapons.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Do you have anymore weapons on you?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
We have the right by law to disarm you until we get…

Okay, you know what that law says? That law says if you feel threatened…

[Officer Steve Ermis]
And I felt threatened.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
You’re carrying this…

If you feel threatened, you are a sorry excuse for a police officer. Me and my son…

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Well that I’m – it’s your opinion

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
You are carrying a loaded rifle.

It’s loaded, but it’s not chambered.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
I feel threatened.

Okay.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
I don’t know that.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
And I feel threatened because you’re carrying a loaded firearm.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
We’re licensed we are allowed to. We’re exempt from the law.

You aren’t exempt from the law.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Yes, we are.

Would you guys think you are the law or something? You have to follow the law, are you taking my firearm?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible) I’m securing it here.

Okay, now, can we figure out what I did against the law? Why did you stop me?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Because we had a call…

[Officer Steve Ermis]
We had a call.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
You’re walking around with the firearm.

Okay. And you came out and was I doing anything threatening, officer?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
When I asked you stop, you continued to walk then you did stop and you turned around, I told you I was going to take the gun and you said no.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no…

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Then you started resisting back.

Oh, bullshit, hey, when you told me to stop, I stopped. You said, come here. And I stopped. You didn’t say it on your loudspeaker. If you said it I didn’t hear you. I turned around and I stopped.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
No, I didn’t do it on loudspeaker.

Exactly. So when I heard you say stop, I stopped. Didn’t I? Didn’t I? Hey, dude, you – I’ve got a fucking back back from Iraq will you let me stand up straight? Thank you.

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
You can stand up. Quit moving.

I’m trying to get my back straight, because you’re killing me.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Is this your son?

Yes, this is my son, we’re out doing…

[Sergeant Minnicks]
What a way –

What a bad excuse you guys are showing for police force.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Actually it’s bad excuse as a dad, the simple answer would of been go ahead and take the gun, secure it.

No, no, no.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Identify who I am.

You did not – you did not – hey, listen, I’m not going to sit here and let you lie like this, okay. You did not ask me for my gun. You just started taking it from me, okay. That is not how you disarm a citizen. If you would of said, sir, will you hand me the gun or sir, will you drop the magazine, I would have done just that. But you wanted to be a friggin prick.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
I will not get into the habit of doing that for anybody with firearm because it’s dangerous.

What just because a guy has got a firearm, he’s dangerous?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Yes, sir.

See that’s the problem with the police force, today.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
No sir, that’s the [world] today.

Yes, it is. I’m an Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
What would you do if you came with somebody that was armed like that in Iraq?

This isn’t Iraq, dude.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
It doesn’t matter.

We’re in Temple, Texas

[Sergeant Minnicks]
People shoot just as quick here as they would anywhere in the world.

Okay, how many CHL holders shoot like that?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
I haven’t asked.

0.18% of CHL holders do make crimes, 0.18%. You never asked to disarm me. You tried to take my weapon from me by force.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
And I have a right to disarm you.

No, you do not.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Yes, I do.

You have a right to disarm me, but you can’t take it from me.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
Yes…

You can ask me for my weapon. You can ask me for my weapon, but you cannot take it from me.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
I’m not going to let you put your hands on it and shoot me.

Who said I was going to shoot you?

[Officer Steve Ermis]
I don’t know you.

I don’t know you either. You could be a rogue cop, you guys aren’t all saints. Now, can you tell me what I am being charged with? So I can go about my way. My son and I…

[Officer Steve Ermis]
Right now you are being detained.

Why am I being detained? What are my – what crime have I committed?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible)

What crime have I committed? Why am I being detained?

[ Officer]
Because you’re carrying a firearm.

That’s not illegal. In the state of Texas, it’s not illegal. Now why am I being detained?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Because we got a call…

Okay, but that’s not against the law.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
We have the right to come and investigate a call.

Okay, I got you…

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Until we’re done, we have the right to take your firearm from you and make sure you’re safe, we’re safe, everybody else is safe.

Okay, and you just found out that I haven’t broken any laws, right?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
We don’t know what you’ve been doing all this time.

I just told you. I am doing a ten mile hike for my son’s Eagle Scout Project.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
I didn’t hear that.

I just told you.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
You didn’t tell me.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
You never said anything about Eagle Scout Project.

It is funny – You asked for me, you didn’t asked me a single question.

[Officer Steve Ermis]
No, I didn’t ask you – I don’t hear anything about Scout, I mean, I asked you about where you are going?

The whole time you’ve been here, you have not asked me a single question. All you have done is use brute force. You guys should have brown shirts on. I fuckin’ support the police department, I come here and I get this kind of treatment.

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
I wasn’t here for this whole thing.

Chill for a minute, okay.

That guy was completely out of line, completely out of line. And it could have been a lot worse, because he was illegally handling me. And I had every right to defend myself if I wasn’t doing anything wrong. I am a law abiding citizen.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible)

Yes, sir I do.

Is it illegal to carry an open firearm?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
If it alarms other people, yes it is.

Okay, that’s still not illegal if I am not using it in a harassing way, I can’t help that people…

[Sergeant Minnicks]
If an alarm go to people, then, yes.

You can look into it, but it’s not against the law.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
That’s what we do.

Okay, but why am I being detained and not let go yet?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
I wasn’t here.

No one saying like why now – why am I now not being let go?

[Sergeant Minnicks] Source: LYBIO.net
I wasn’t here. I don’t know what happened before I got here.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
You’re just gonna have to chill for a minute.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
I don’t know what happened before I got here.

I am still going to complain against that officer.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
That’s your right.

Chris, did he ever ask me to remove the weapon?.

[Son - Chris]
(inaudible)

Thank you

All he did was come straight up and grab my rifle like I am some sort of a criminal. I guess, there are a lot of people around here that commit crimes with their son next to them. Okay, I have no weapons on me, can I take these cuffs off?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible)

Hey, I have no weapons on me. Can we take these cuffs off?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Stay up here.

I’d like to do this in front of the camera, please. No, I’d like to be in front of your camera.

[Officer Steve Ermis] Source: LYBIO.net
You are under arrest, you’re going to jail.

What do am I under arrest for?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
You don’t have a choice.

What do am I under arrest for? I did not resist, sir. Call, mom. When did I resist, sir? You guys (inaudible) where’s your weapon? (inaudible (wind sound) screwed up with a law abiding citizen because your officer manhandled me for no reason. You guys got to come up with some sort of charge.

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible (*wind sound*))

Call mom. How long will you keep me in jail?

[Sergeant Minnicks]
Let’s see.

Wait, wait, wait, where is my son going? Where is my son going?

[Son - Chris]
(crying in the background)

[Sergeant Minnicks]
(inaudible)

Have mom call Brett Pritchard lawyer. Let him know what’s going on, okay. He is going take you home, all right. So when mom gets home, don’t worry about me, it’s fine. When you get home, tell mom to call Brett Pritchard, okay, because we’re going to file a lawsuit. All right, don’t worry, buddy, he is going to take you home, okay. These guys aren’t bad guys unless – unless they get embarrassed. You can turn it off now.

[Son - Chris] Source: LYBIO.net
(crying in the background)

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