Negative Open Carry Encounter With The Philadelphia Police Department

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[Police] Source: LYBIO.net
Social security number?

I don’t have to give you my social security number for that.

[Police]
Pit stop 42 on the block of Main Street. Do you have nick name?

No.

[Police]
First name is going to be Joshua, spelled J Jan, O Oliver, S Sam, H Harry, U United, A Amy. Last name is going to be Rodriguez, spelled R Robert, O Oliver, D Dan, R Robert, I Issac, G George, U United, E Eddy, Z Ziger. Date of birth, 8/4/90.

[Cross Talk Inaudible]

[Police]
Do you have a license to carry?

[Police]
How much you weigh?

220.

[Police]
Are you military?

No, sir.

[Police]
The color of your eyes?

Brown.

[Police]
Hair?

Black.

[Police]
Are you in the news?

Oh, it’s not me. I know who you’re talking about, but that was not me.

[Police]
What kind of ammunition you got?

Huh?

[Police]
What’s that Glock.

Glock.

23.

[Police]
What caliber?

40 caliber.

[Police]
You got hollow point?

I do.

[Police]
How many?

13, one in chamber.

[Police]
Do you know the law?

I do know the law.

[Police]
Are you required to have – or are you supposed to have 13 hollow points in State of Pennsylvania?

You can. State of New Jersey, you cannot. State of Pennsylvania does not require you to – there is no requirement on ammunition.

[Police]
Sure?

Positive.

[Police]
You have the statue?

I don’t have the statue with me, but I do know that is a law, you can carry hollow points.

[Police]
And who told you that? Who told you that?

Just my information that I looked up. I have the statue at…

[Police]
Where from – From the internet?

I downloaded the statue. It’s there at home. I know you can carry hollow point in your firearm.

[Police]
You can, but do you know that – how many you can have in there?

You can have a full clip, and one in the chamber.

[Police]
You’re 100% positive.

Positive. You can carry four magazines if you’d like.

[Police]
Do you have a license for Philadelphia?

I do. Well Pennsylvania.

[Police]
So I wanted to – just about – I’m much older, I’m 52 years old, 8 years in marine core.

I understand.

[Police]
For me, from a tactical point, 8-4-90 – I’ve been the cop for almost 18 years.

(Inaudible)

[Police] Source: LYBIO.net
Can I see the valid license to carry?

I got it – I got it

License?

Yeah.

I got it.

[Police]
I tell you from a tactical support, now let’s suppose I am a bad guy. I see that, I know that I jump the gun, you make think, the element of surprise.

Right.

[Police]
Element of surprise.

I understand.

[Police]
You walking around – as you know that’s what I am doing. I am doing, as I said, train you on this – I’m legally to stop you to investigate.

I understand.

[Police]
Because your license could be suspended.

I understand that.

[Police]
You know, but so…

Your license could be failed.

[Police]
Yeah, so the thing is that every time you do this, you’re liable to get stopped when you can just cover it up.

Okay.

[Police]
I’ve been a cop for 18 years, I keep mines covered up.

I have a question for you.

[Police]
Yes.

Do you stop everyone in a vehicle because you need a driver’s license to drive a vehicle correct?

[Police]
Right.

So why don’t you stop everyone driving the car?

[Police]
But they had to do a violation. Take a hold. Hold, hold, hold. Why do a car stop – they do a violation.

Right.

I am not violating anything right now.

Yes, you are. I have the right to investigate you.

Okay. But…

I don’t know you have the…

I have the right to carry a firearm.

[Police]
I am not saying that, I’m not saying – weren’t you clear?

[Police]
Put your hands on the head …

Excuse me.

[Police]
Put your hands on the head that you don’t have nothing to resist.

So I am being disarmed right now?

[Police] Source: LYBIO.net
Yeah, you’re being disarmed right now.

I have a valid license to carry a firearm.

[Police]
License number, can you run that?

[Police]
See this man – I’ve told you…

All right, but I have a license, I interacted with you the other day officer.

[Police]
No, officer. I understand that.

Hold up hold up dig this – Don’t call me officer. I am just going to say this. Remember I was being real with you.

Right.

I messed with – but say you messed, aye by yes we do stuff.

Right.

Just I am telling you man.

[Police]
And I have got a number to permit to carry.

But what I am trying to tell you is that I have a valid license. I have been stopped.

Man – and you…

That’s not what I am trying to do.

[Cross Talk]

[Police]
Okay. The license numbers are 51-0000-3984

Especially when you go into business, are you going into any business?

[Police]
I’ve been here, I’ve carried here before.

You’ve carried here before.

Yes, I have got my haircut here before.

I know that guy; he is a personal friend of mine.

All right. I understand that.

Do you think he will allow you to carry a weapon into his shop?

You can carry, it’s a private property. If he tells me to leave, I have to leave. There’s – the only place I cannot carry is a federal building.

You have all these laws man, did you go to law school?

No, I just know the law. That’s it.

You’re not supposed to have 13 bullets Hollow points in your gun right now? You can have full metal jacket. You cannot have hollow points. You know that?

You’re a retired police officer?

I am not a retired police officer. There is something wrong with that system. You can run it again. Get somebody else to run it, call a supervisor, because I can guarantee that’s a…

Put your hands down.

You told me to put my hands on my head.

That’s because when we got the gun from you.

No problem.

Is there a supervisor you guys can call?

We – It’s the same system.

Okay.

[Police]
Okay. Back to – just give me a 42 Main – block

Do you stop him before (inaudible).

Yeah, he came in (inaudible).

What model that Glock was?

23.

23, 40 caliber.

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Can you get the serial number?

Yeah, I’ll get the serial number.

Is it all right if I lower my magazine right now?

Where are you about to go?

I’m getting a haircut. Getting a haircut, just trying to at least.

You bring some of this on the belt too?

What’s the serial number?

[Police]
Robert-Harry-Eddie-7-3-2.

Where did you buy the gun?

Huh

Where you purchased the gun?

Yes, sir.

[Police]
So you don’t mind getting stopped because he is stopping. When did you stop him?

You are carrying a weapon to protect yourself from what?

I don’t only live in Rockville. My mother lives in North Philadelphia, North Phili, South Phili, I go along.

[Cross Talk]

I don’t have the wrong attitude.

Your license. Yeah, you’re being disrespectful.

How am I being disrespectful?

You know, when you applied to get your license anytime a police officer stop you for investigation, all the conversation is ceased, but you’re – but here you’re talking. Just shut your mouth. Let the officers investigate. And that’s it.

[Police]
My thing is that, if I carry, if I carry, like you’re, I had to have hollow badge okay. You walk into a store, people don’t know who you are.

Right.

[Police]
Okay. I should of pulled my gun out. Tactically. If I don’t know who you are, I pull my gun out, people don’t say – people will say – some one could – I could pull a gun and (inaudible).

Right.

[Police]
And made you go on your knees and do all that, to avoid all that – you can cover. Like I say, I’ve been in military, the element of surprise, and I shot 15 and 14 caliber guns.

Okay.

[Police] Source: LYBIO.net
Been in shootings. So you’re never been in shootings – so don’t say, you’ve been in same thing I did. I’m saying to you, the element of surprise, well, if was a bad guy, I will probably take your gun and shoot with your own gun.

Can you please – You just hit me.

[Cross Talk]

I am not – I just want to say to you – I’m just trying to make a point.

All right, I understand. I understand, you are trying to make a point.

Okay.

Fine.

[Police]
You can do that.

No problem.

[Police]
You can do that. But I am saying the element of surprise. And when we go in business, I am quite sure, so many people, I have – I’ve been – I know this guy for three years. I am pretty sure, he don’t feel comfortable and may be people feel comfortable. Somebody sitting who is not a law enforcement with a gun. You might stick them up got let those guys stick him up. You know what, they don’t know this but this is what they thinging.

If I was trying to stick them up, would I have to turn out in the open, would I do that?

[Police]
You might. You might.

No problem.

If you rob a bank, are you always going to wear a mask? No.

No. But you are not going to walk into the bank like…

Oh, bad guys don’t have baggy jeans and…

[Police]
That’s a stereotype – that’s a stereotype

Like I say, you might able to mean.

Because I carry a firearm, I have dress in a certain way and I have to…

You are not making any sense. You want to argue.

I don’t want to argue. I want to go get a haircut. That’s what I want to do.

[Police]
You’re free to go.

I am free to go.

All right, officer, have a good day.

Jesus Fuckin Christ.

(Inaudible)

[Police]
You know this guy, this guy right here – came here with his gun, got license to carry. Do you want him – did he come here all time? Did he had gun open before here?

I had my gun open carried here before. Yes, I have.

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