2pac Interview By Judge

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[2pac Interview By Judge]

[June 30 1995]

[Attorneys in the case taped this sworn deposition while Tupac was imprisoned on another charge at Clinton Correctional Facility in upstate New York.]

Sir, would you raise your right hand please?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur (June 16, 1971 – September 13, 1996)]
Yes.

Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
I do.

Thank you.

Could you please state your full name for the record?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Yes, Tupac Amaru Shakur.

Okay. And what is your age and your resident address?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Just turned 24 on June 16th. I’m living in Decatur, Georgia.

Okay. How did you get interested in music?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
I started off with poetry, prime [writing] poetry, but…

Junior high school?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Yes.

Okay.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Junior high school. And poets – I saw were like looked on like [webs]. So I did that personally, but then I started turning to poetry and sing songs, and I got more attention.

How did you get into rap?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
It is of my opinion that I was rapping while I was writing poetry.

Okay.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
And so I was into rap, I’m guess you can say from junior high, when I actually wrote my first poem, and I heard in the radio that there were other poets, who made records and they were still selling, and it was working, then I decided to change the method on my poetry.

How do you define rap? What constitutes rap?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
It’s what it is poetry. To me, story telling poetry…

To music with a beat?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
With or without music – you can a capella rap.

Okay. But it has some type of beat and tune to it, does it? Even if you don’t have accompaniment?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
No, even (indecipherable) is rap, you know, it’s the way you write it, the structure, it depends on how you write it, but as to what you need a beat. I’d never guess this will sell that much if you don’t have a beat. So the music is more of a selling tool than it is necessary to music.

Now you were performing by the time you hit your sole album what people call gangster rap?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No.

You were not?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No.

What would you – what would you call, what you’re performing…

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Rap music?

Ya, rap music? Okay, have you ever performed gangster rap?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No.

Okay. And why would you say that?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
Because I’m not – I don’t know, number one, what gangster rap is? Number two, I don’t classify what my music is gangster rap.

Have you heard the term?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
A lot.

Okay.

There is next statement that: “I’m a victim for real, um, I really got my ass beat, I really don’t like police.”

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
I didn’t – I didn’t say that – where you at right there, oh, I didn’t say that, that’s not what I says.

Okay.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
It says, I am a victim for real. Everything I talk is for real. I really got my ass beat. I really don’t like them. The interviewer wrote police.

Did you mean police?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
No.

What did you mean?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
I really got – I really don’t like crooked police.

Okay. So you feel okay about other police?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Feel okay?

You like other police, you just don’t like crooked police, is that what you’re saying?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
Police, I like everybody that just does their job. I mean it depends on, I don’t know. Personally, if I meet someone that’s kind hearted and that’s true and that’s a fair, then I like them, because, especially in a position like that. Somebody is in a position where they have to put your life online and they could still be fair to everybody they meet. I definitely like them, I admire that.

Are you aware of any others who had shot a policemen especially teenagers who shot policemen after listening to your music?

After allegedly listening to music?

That’s right, after allegedly listening; they said, ‘they’ve listened to your music.’

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No.

And that’s what caused them to do it.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
But none of them ever said this until you guys started saying this. So and put it all over the news and have Dan Quayle saying.

I’m asking, are you aware of any others, not ones I asked?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
No.

Got you. When did you first start getting fan mail? Remember what year?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No, I don’t.

All right. Here you say that you also received unfavorable mail?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Yeah, like this, I’ve got a lot of that from ya’ll and…um

From fans?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No, from y’all, you guys, lawyers, the lawsuits.

From anybody else did you ever receive unfavorable mail?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Out of my whole career, I believe I’ve got five pieces of hate mail probably like a lot of all the mail, I’ve ever gotten, I’ve only got about five pieces maximum.

Do you respond to that?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
I responded to your hate mail.

Just answer the questions when you [were asked.]

Have you ever used illegal drug?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Um.. Marijuana? Yes.

Any other?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
No.

Okay. How often have you used marijuana?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
In my whole life?

Yeah.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
At what point in my life?

Let’s say from 17 on?

I want to know an instructor witness start to talk about any use or possession of the illegal substances, I don’t believe that is relevant to this; he’s admitted use of it.

I think it’s absolutely relevant here, you’re trying to making after choir boy, I want to see what he’s really done?

I haven’t made his out to be anything.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
You’re trying to make me out to be a devil.

Was it your intention to try to get young black people, to be violent to police.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
No.

Were you trying to provoke anybody to do anything particular? Were you trying to provoke or trying to get people to do things?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]
Yes.

Tell us what?

[Tupac Amaru Shakur] Source: LYBIO.net
Think. Use your head.

Two years later, a federal court ruled in Tupac’s favor, citing his constitutional right to free expression. By the time of the ruling, Tupac had already been shot and killed.

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