Second Planned Parenthood Senior Executive Haggles Over Baby Parts Prices, Changes Abortion Methods

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Second Planned Parenthood Senior Executive Haggles Over Baby Parts Prices, Changes Abortion Methods

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[Video One: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions To Sell Baby Parts]

[Planned Parenthood Cecile Richards Official Video Response]

Cecile Richards
President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America

Hello, I’m Cecile Richards, President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. I want to be really clear. The allegation that Planned Parenthood profits in anyway from tissue donation is not true.

The footage you are about to see was taken from an undercover meeting with a top-level Planned Parenthood abortion doctor executive. Some viewers may find this content disturbing.

[Buyer:]
What would you expect for intact tissue? What sort of compensation? What sort of.

[Mary Gatter:] Source: LYBIO.net
Well why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying?

(a) Purchase of tissue

It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human fetal tissue for valuable consideration

42 U.S. CODE 289G-2

On February 6, 2015, investigators posing as a Fetal Tissue Procurement Company met with the President of the Planned Parenthood Medical Directors’ Council, Dr. Mary Gatter.

[Buyer:]
We’ll be exhibiting at the Medical Directors’ Council meeting.

[Mary Gatter:]
Oh good. Good, good, good.

[Buyer:]
In a couple of weeks, I don’t know if you’ll be attending?

[Mary Gatter:]
I am now the President of that organization.

[Buyer:]
Oh.

Dr. Gatter was Medical Director at Planned Parenthood Los Angeles until 2014, and now oversees their Pasadena affiliate, in addition to her leadership and advisory positions at the national level of Planned Parenthood.

[Mary Gatter:]
So we just started the conversation. They’re a start up, that they have been about a year in business. They are a for-profit company that’s connecting researchers with people willing to donate tissue.

Our volume, thank you for giving it to me is 800 [abortions] a year, with 60 in the 2nd trimester, and we were just starting to talk about the process worked with Novogenix down in Los Angeles when I was there.

[Buyer:]
Okay.

[Mary Gatter:]
To back up a little bit, PPFA, our parent body, is on board with tissue donation, but we have to ask for a waiver to do it, and we have to lay out for them what our program’s gonna be like.

And the mechanics of it was that, Heather, a Novogenix person would come to the site, and our staff would sign the patients up, and get consent.

And then Heather would look at the tissue and take what she required. So logistically it was very easy for us. We didn’t have to do anything. So there was compensation for this, we didn’t have to do anything. So there was compensation for this. And there was a discussion as I was leaving – they have been paying by the case, and there was some discussion about doing it, in a different way, or I don’t know what you’re used to doing, how you’re used to doing compensation. Patients don’t get anything, of course, but –

[Buyer:] Source: LYBIO.net
Okay, so I’d like. What would you expect for intact tissue? What sort of compensation? What sort of –

[Mary Gatter:]
Well why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying?

[Buyer:]
Okay. I don’t think so. I’d like to hear, I would like to know. What would make you happy? What would work for you?

[Mary Gatter:]
Well, you know in negotiations the person who throws out the figure first is at a loss, right? So, [laughs].

[Buyer:]
No, I don’t look at it that way. I know, you want to play that game, I get it. But…

[Mary Gatter:]
I don’t want to play games, I just don’t want to lowball, because I’m used to low things from –

[Buyer:]
You know what? If you lowball, I’ll act pleasantly surprised and you’ll know it’s a lowball.

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay.

[Buyer:]
What I want to know is, what would work for you? Don’t lowball it, tell me what you really –

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay. $75 a specimen.

[Buyer:]
Oh. That’s way too low.

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay.

[Buyer:]
And that’s, really, that’s way too low. I don’t – I want to keep you happy.

[Mary Gatter:]
And I was going to say $50. Because I’ve been in places that did $50, too. But see, we don’t, we’re not in it for the money [and we don’t want to be].

Why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying? I just don’t want to lowball, $75 a specimen. And we don’t want to be in a position of being accused of selling tissue and stuff like that. On the other hand, there are costs associated with the use of our space, and all that kind of stuff.

[Buyer:]
Exactly. Yes, right.

[Mary Gatter:] Source: LYBIO.net
So what were you thinking about?

[Buyer:]
Way higher than that. [Um…] so I’d like to start at around $100.

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay. Now this is for tissue that you actually take? Not just tissue that the person volunteers, but you can’t find anything, right?

[Buyer:]
Exactly.

[Mary Gatter:]
Now this is for tissue that you actually take? Not just the tissue that person volunteers, but you can’t find anything, right?

[Buyer:]
Exactly. Right. What is, what we can use, what is intact. So that’s why I’m saying no, don’t lowball, I want you to be happy and –

[Mary Gatter:]
Well, it’s complicated by the fact that our volume is so low too. I mean, are you look at 8 and 9 week specimens, or only 2nd trimester specimens?

[Buyer:]
You know, 10 to 12 week [fetuses], end of the 1st trimester, If those are pretty intact specimens, Then that’s something we can work with.

[Mary Gatter:]
So that’s an interesting concept. Let me explain to you a little bit of a problem,

Which may not be a big problem, if our usual technique is suction, at 10 to 12 weeks, And we switch to using an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] or something with less suction, Or to increase the odds that it will come out as an intact specimen, Then we’re kind of violating the protocol that says to the patient, “We’re not doing anything different in our care for you.”

[Buyer:]
Yeah.

[Mary Gatter:]
Now to me, that’s kind of a specious little argument and I wouldn’t object to asking Ian, Who’s our surgeon who does the cases, To use an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] at that gestational age, in order to increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen, But I do need to throw it out there as a concern Because the patient is signing something and we’re signing something that’s saying We’re not changing anything with the way we’re managing you, Just because we agree to give tissue.

[Buyer:]
Okay.

[Mary Gatter:]
You’ve heard that before.

[Male Buyer:]
Yes. It’s difficult.

[Woman Buyer:]
It’s touchy. Okay. How do you feel about that?

[Mary Gatter:]
I think they’re both totally appropriate techniques, there’s no difference in pain involved, I don’t think the patients would care one iota. So yeah, I’m not making a fuss about that.

[Buyer:] Source: LYBIO.net
Okay, okay.

[Mary Gatter:]
You have my email address, right?

[Male Buyer:]
Right. I have your email, ya.

[Mary Gatter:]
Write me a three to four paragraph proposal. Which I will then take to Laurel and the organization to see if we want to proceed with this. And then, if we want to pursue this, mutually, I’ll mention this to Ian [in terms of how he feels about this] and see how he feels about using a “less crunchy” technique to get more whole specimens. And then, if we agree to move forward, the next steps I would need to apply to PPFA for a waiver, In order to do this, we need to have a contract, Do you have a contract?

[Male Buyer:]
We have, ya. What we’ve used in the past is a materials transfer agreement. And that’s obviously open to discussion.

[Mary Gatter:]
So that’s a prototype. It needs to say exactly what your staff is going to do. Exactly what your expectations are. Exactly what the compensation is.

[Female Buyer:]
And are we agreed that $100 would keep you happy?

[Mary Gatter:]
I think so – Well let me agree to find out what other affiliates in California what they are getting,

And if they’re getting substantially more, then we can discuss it then.

[Buyer:]
Yes.

[Mary Gatter:]
But you know, the money is not the important thing for me,

[Buyer:]
No, no.

[Mary Gatter:]
But it has to be big enough that it makes it worthwhile for me —

[Buyer:]
No, but it is something to talk about. I mean it’s one of the first things that you brought up, right? So,

[Mary Gatter:]
It has to be big enough that it makes it worthwhile for me –

[Female Buyer:]
But it is something to talk about. I mean it’s one of the first things that you brought up, right? So,

[Male Buyer:]
Now here’s another thought, is- We could talk about specimen, as per specimen, per case, Or per procured tissue sample.

[Mary Gatter:]
Mhmm,

[Male Buyer:]
Which would be, so that if we’re able to get a liver-thymus pair, You know maybe that is $75 per specimen. And so, that’s for you, you know if a liver-thymus pair, That’s $150, versus if we can get liver-thymus,

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay,

[Male Buyer:]
Brain hemisphere, and all that, then- So that, that protects us. So that we’re not paying for what we can’t use. And also, I think it also,

[Mary Gatter:]
Okay,

[Buyer:]
Maybe illustrates things for you.

[Mary Gatter:]
It’s been years since I’ve talked about compensation, so let me just

[Buyer:]
Ahuh.

[Mary Gatter:]
Figure out what others are getting, If this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, If it’s still low, then we can bump it up.

[Buyer:]
[indiscernible]

[Mary Gatter:]
I want a Lamborghini.

[Buyer:]
What did you say?

[Mary Gatter:]
I said I want a Lamborghini.

[Male Buyer:]
Don’t we all, right?

[Mary Gatter:] Source: L Y B I O . N E T
Exactly.

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