Rep. Mike Kelly Receives Standing Ovation At Ways & Means Hearing On IRS Scandal
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[Rep. Mike Kelly Receives Standing Ovation At Ways & Means Hearing On IRS Scandal]
Mr. George you have been on the job since November of 2004, is that correct.
Anything rise to this level before?
Can I ask you why did it take so long from the first time we knew this was happening to the report? The president said just the other day, I think it was yesterday he just got a look at the report. that is the first time he knew anything about it.
Well first —
Other than reading in the papers I guess.
Are you asking how?
Have you ever seen that magnitude before, anything of this magnitude before?
It has never come up before?
No, it has not.
All right. Thank you.
Mr. Miller, you’ve been on the job for quite some years but the current job you’re in is from November 9th, 2012. So is that right? You just took over as acting commissioner? Source: LYBIO.net
In November of 12, yes.
I had both jobs.
Alright, but before that, one of your jobs you were the Commissioner of tax-exempt and government entities division. So you actually were in the job that we’re questioning now that group of what was happening, there? So would have been in Cincinnati?
You were never in Cincinnati.
Is Cincinnati some outpost?
So obviously the IRS is a nationwide organization.
I know, I understand that. I understand that.
I want to tell you, listen, believe me if you think it is uncomfortable sitting over there, be a private individual when the IRS is across from you questioning. It is uncomfortable for everybody. My question more specifically how did Cincinnati to where they are? How did they develop that strategy and how did they know to go after these certain groups? How did they target those folks? That just, a couple rookies just showed up? Didn’t really know what they were doing.
So, again I would, I would point to the TIGTA report on what happened.
I understand that. I understand that. But I’m hearing, these are couple always low level people that pushed the wrong button. Now, when Cincinnati can’t figure out, who do they confer with, who is their counsel, when they’re looking at these entities tax-exempt entities? Come back here to D.C.?
There is two possibilities.
Yes or no, does it come back to D.C.
And Cincinnati pretty well-connected and understand what is going on. This doesn’t come as a great shock to anybody. Down come as a shock. You know what it does to the american people? Established what they feared so off then. I have a grandson afraid to get out of bed because owe thinks there is somebody under the bed that will grab him. Most Americans fear that about the IRS. You get a letter from you folks or phone call, it is with terror. This kind of reconfirms that. You know what, they can do almost they want to anybody they want, anytime they want. This is very chilling for the american people. Now i know that, where you’re at, you’re going, you’re resigning.
You’re walking away from it. But this is not going to go away. This is a Pandora’s box that has been open. I hope to get the lid back on it. I don’t believe the white house just found out about this in a news report, president happened to grab a TV shot or just read Mr. George’s report and says you know what? Anybody ever caught this before? I’m just getting first look at this. Shouldn’t somebody be responsible. And I’m thinking executive office, maybe treasury falls in there. I’m not sure we understand how that organizational chart works. But I am really concerned. Now, I got to tell you, where you’re sitting you should be outraged. But you’re not. The American people should be outraged and they are. And this committee, this has nothing to do with political parties. This has to do with highly targeted groups. This reconfirms everything the American public believes. This is a huge blow to the faith and trust that the American people have in their government. Is there any limit to the scope where you folks can go? Is there anything at all? Is there any way that we could ask you is there any question that you should have asked? Source: LYBIO.net
My goodness. How much money do you have in your wallet? Who do you get emails from? Whose sign do you put up in your front yard? This is a tax question? And you don’t think that’s intimidating? It’s sure as hell intimidating. And I don’t know that I got any answers from you today. And I don’t know that — what Mr. George said is great work — but you know what? There’s a heck of a lot more that has to come out in this. Any anybody that sat here today and listened to what you had to say, I am more concerned today than I was before, and the fact that you all can do just about anything you want to anybody?
You know, you can put anybody out of business that you want. Any time you want. I gotta tell you. You could talk about how you’re a horribly run organization, if you’re on the other side of the fence, you’re not giving that excuse. And the IRS comes in, you’re not allowed to be shoddy, you’re not allowed to be run horribly, you’re not allowed to make mistakes, you’re not allowed to do one damn thing that doesn’t come in compliance, and if you do, you’re held responsible right then. I just think the American people have seen what’s going on right now in their government. This is absolutely an overreach and this is an outrage for all Americans. I yield back.
Mr. Griffin is recognized for five minutes, the committee will come to order.
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