Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions To Sell Baby Parts

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Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions To Sell Baby Parts

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ABC News – 20/20

March 8, 2000

Now, a story we guarantee most of you have never heard before. Big money is being made from the sale of foetal body parts.

“I AM” FOR LIFE

Even the most ardent pro-choice advocates like Planned Parenthood President, Gloria Feldt are disturbed by what we found.

[Gloria Feldt:]
It seems inappropriate. Totally inappropriate. Where there is wrongdoing, it should be prosecuted and should be brought to justice.

The footage you are about to see was taken from an undercover meeting with a top-level Planned Parenthood abortion doctor executive. Some viewers may find this content disturbing.

Dr. Deborah Nucatola
Senior Director of Medical Services,
Planned Parenthood Federation of America

A lot of people want intact hearts these days, because they’re looking for specific nodes. AV nodes, SA, I was like wow, I didn’t even know, good for them. Yesterday was the first time she said people wanted lungs.

[Man:]
Huh-ah.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
And then, like I said, always as many intact livers as possible. People just want –

[Man:]
Yeah, livers.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Some people want lover extremities too…

[Man:]
Yeah, I know

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Which, that’s simple. I mean that’s easy. I don’t know what they’re doing with it, I guess they want muscle.

[Man:]
Yeah, a dime a dozen.

Buying or selling human body parts is a federal felony.
(42 U.S. Code 274e)

The commercial traffick of body parts from an aborted baby is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $500,000.
(42 U.S. Code 289g-2)

ACTUAL ORDER FORM

On July 25, 2014, investigators posing as a Fetal Tissue Procurement Company met with Planned Parenthood’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Deborah Nucatola.

Planned Parenthood
Care. No matter what.

Planned Parenthood
Federation of America, Inc.

Deborah Nucatola, MD 434 West 33rd Street
Senior Director New York, NY 10001
Medical Services Phone 212.261.4632
deborah.nucatola@ppfa.org

www.plannedparenthood.org

[Deborah Nucatola:]
I’m the Medical Director for the national office for all the unions.

[Man:]
Right.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
So I say okay, what are you looking to supply today? [indiscernible] what do you want to get, heart, lung, liver?

Dr. Nucatola oversees the abortion practice of all Planned Parenthood affiliates and performs abortions through 24 weeks.

Planned Parenthood
Care. No matter what.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Every provider has had patietns who want to donate their tissue, and they absolutely want to accommodate them. They just want to do it in a way that is not perceived as, “This clinic is selling tissue, this clinic is making money off of this.”

[Buyer:]
Okay, so, when you are, or the affiliate is determining what that monetary–

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Yes.

[Buyer:]
So that it doesn’t raise any question of this is – this is what it’s about, this is the main – what price range, would you –?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
You know, I would throw a number out, I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100 [per specimen], depending on the facility and what’s involved.

[Buyer (male):]
The $30 to $100 price range, that’s per specimen that we’re talking about, right?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Per specimen. Yes.

[Buyer:]
Yeah. The $30 to $100 price range, that’s per specimen that we’re talking about, right?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Per specimen. Yes.

[Buyer:]
Yeah. How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected or what we need, versus–

[Deborah Nucatola:]
It makes a huge difference. I’d say a lot of people liver.

[Buyer:]
Mhm.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium – the head – is basically the biggest part. Most of the other stuff can come out intact.

[Buyer:]
Right.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
It’s very rare to have a patient that doesn’t have enough dilation to evacuate all the other parts intact.

[Buyer:]
To bring the body cavity out intact and all that?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Exactly. So then you’re just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers, you try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that, you know,

[Buyer:]
Yeah.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m going to basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact. And with the calvarium [head], in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation [of the fetus] so that it’s not vertex [head-first], because when it’s vertex [head-first] presentation, you never have enough dilate at the beginning of the case, unless you have a real, huge amount of dilation to deliver an intact calvarium [head].

[Buyer:] Source: LYBIO.net
Right.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
So if you do it starting from the breech [feet-first] presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium [head] at the end.

[Buyer:]
Mhm.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
So I mean there are certainly steps that can be taken to try to ensure –

[Buyer:]
So they can convert to breech, for example, at the start of the –

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Exactly, exactly. Under ultrasound guidance, they can just change the presentation.

[Buyer:]
Okay.

Using ultrasound guidance to convert the fetus to breech position and extract the intact fetus up to the head is identical to the illegal Partial-Birth Abortion procedure.

1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps.

2) The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.

3) The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.

4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.

5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out. The baby is then “evacuated”.

[Buyer:]
Excellent.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
And ultrasound guidance, like change the presentation.

[Buyer:]
To bring the body cavity out intact and all that?

[Deborah Nucatola:] Exactly. if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.

Partial-birth abortion is a federal felony punishable by up to 2 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $250,000. (18 U.S. Code 1531)

A fetus extracted intact and alive during an abortion is a born-alive infant under federal law and any further action taken to kill him or her is homicide. (1 U.S. Code 8)

[Deborah Nucatola:]
The Federal [Partial-Birth] Abortion Ban is a law, and laws are up to interpretation. So if I say on day one, I do not intend to do this, what ultimately happens doesn’t matter.

[Buyer:]
So yesterday was a clinic day. So for example, what did you procure?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
You know I asked her at the beginning of the day what she wanted, yesterday she wanted, she’s been asking, a lot of people want intact hearts these days, because they’re looking for specific nodes. AV nodes, SA, I was like wow, I didn’t even know, good for them. Yesterday was the first time she said people wanted lungs.

[Buyer:]
Uhuh.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
And then, like I said, always as many intact livers as possible. People just want –

[Buyer:]
Yeah, liver is huge right now.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Some people want lower extremities too, which, that’s simple. I mean that’s easy. I don’t know what they’re doing with it, I guess they want muscle.

[Buyer:]
Yeah. A dime a dozen.

[Deborah Nucatola:] Source: LYBIO.net
Mhm.

[Buyer:]
Yeah.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
If you maintain enough of a dialogue with the person who’s actually doing the procedure, so they understand what the end-game is, there are little things, changes they can make in their technique to increase your success.

[Man’s Voice:]
Ya.

[Buyer:]
Even though they have a set way that they do it, they’re open to changing that?

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Reasonable, if they’re reasonable people, sure. For example, so I had 8 cases yesterday. And I knew exactly what we needed, and I kinda looked at the list and said okay, this 17-weeker has 8 lams, and this one – so I knew which were the cases that were probably more likely to yield what we needed, and I made my decisions according to that too, so it’s worth having a huddle at the beginning of the day, and that’s what I do.

[Man’s Voice:]
Uh-huh.

Planned Parenthood Federation of America is organized like a franchise, with many regional affiliates carrying the Planned Parenthood brand name and reporting to the national office.

PPFA has affiliates contract directly for body parts sales, so that a regional affiliate can take the fall for the entire organization if the sales are exposed…

[Buyer:]
Rather than having to deal with all the different affiliates, if there were a way to partner with PPFA directly to get some kind of like, pre-clearance or something, so that –

[Deborah Nucatola:]
So, we tried to do this.

[Buyer:]
Uhuh.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
And at the national office we have a Litigation and Law Department which just really doesn’t want us to be the middle people for this issue right now.

[Buyer:]
Mhm.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Because we actually, we were approached by StemExpress to do the same thing.

[Buyer:]
Uhuh.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
Uh,,, one of the northern California affiliates said we’re working with these people, we love them, we think every affiliate should work with them. And so we had a conversation, and – and said you know, what do you think, we’ll just go out and find all the people that are doing this and present everybody with a menu. And at the end of the day, they just decided right now, it’s too touchy an issue for us to be an official middleman.

[Buyer:]
Mhm.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
But that –

[Buyer:]
When you say right now, do you see a future –

[Deborah Nucatola:] Source: LYBIO.net
Right now, the way Supreme Court looks, I don’t think it looks very good.

[Buyer:]
Okay.

[Deborah Nucatola:]
If you talk to my litigation and law folks, anything that’s going to go the Supreme Court right now, we are all losers. But I will tell you that behind closed doors these conversations are happening with the affiliates.

Cecile Richards
President and CEO,
Planned Parenthood

[Buyer:]
Cecile.

[Cecile Richards:]
Hey.

[Buyer:]
I wanted to thank you so much for Dr. Nucatola. She’s been so helpful for the past year.

[Cecile Richards:]
Oh good.

[Buyer:]
I’m [Name], with [Company]. We do fetal tissue collection, and she’s been very helpful with —

[Cecile Richards:]
Great!

[Buyer:]
Figuring out who to talk to and —

[Cecile Richards:]
Okay, great. Thank you. She’s amazing. Yeah.

[Buyer:]
And thank you for Planned Parenthood too!

[Cecile Richards:] Source: LYBIO.net
Oh yeah! Thank you! Thanks for being here.

[Buyer:]
Definitely.

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